The "Black" Pope
The NEW 2009 Jesuit General & his
So you thought
you were pretty well informed by now about all of the main players on
Lucifer's Rebellion Playing Field? You’ve maybe been hearing for years
about (or bumped into on your own) the various elements of society
control our world from behind the scenes.
You’ve gotten familiar
with the role played by, for instance, the Khazarian Zionists (who
invented the word "Jew" to disguise their adopted heritage, as
distinguished from the biblical Judeans), or the role played by the
Sabbataian Banksters (banking gangsters) controlling the economies of the world, by
the CFR (Council on Foreign Relations), the Trilateral Commission, the
Committee of 300
(the 17 wealthiest so-called "elite" families)—the Rothschilds in
England and Rockefellers
in America and Bronfman's in Canada, and on and on, comprising the
physical power structure of the New World Order puppets under the
direction of darkly motivated, other-dimensional "master deceivers"
commonly known as Lucifer or Satan and their "fallen angel" cohorts.
While all of those
details contribute to understanding the Larger Picture, what you are
about to read, and view on the videos, fills in a most important Missing
Link in this entire structure. And I don’t mean a little side issue; I
mean a link so central—yet so well hidden from the general public view,
and for so long—that even the most studied of "conspiracy theory"
scholars probably have not put together much of the information that is
going to be presented here, ALWAYS remember, these Politicians and Bankers are handled by the Jesuits.
To call the following
outlay "controversial" and "sensitive" is about as mild an
understatement of the truth of the matter as can be made! This missing
link changes the entire slant of the entire playing field!
After months of
anticipation and weeks of preparation, I was finally able to speak with
Vatican Assassins author Eric Jon Phelps on Tuesday, March 14.
There was simply no other way to cover Eric’s historic masterpiece
spanning, literally, five centuries, than to just ask questions covering
huge spans of time and major historical events. It took us almost four
hours to accomplish the task, yet we could easily have gone on for
We are simply unwilling to reduce the importance of this work
by presenting it in a too distilled fashion. In fact, in order to share
this material with at least some of the pertinent backup, Eric has
granted us permission to print (directly after the interview) several
excerpts from his soon-to-be-published book which will help you in
understanding certain aspects of this magnificently important and
broad-sweeping story. The missing link is surely a central link.
Let’s call this story
the "Jesuit-Vatican connection" to the unfolding New World
agenda. You make up your own mind just how absolutely central, yet well
hidden, has been this link! There’s a good reason the secret Vatican
library is so extensive and yet remains so intact from outside
intrusion, despite the many others who would like to possess such a
collection of information detailing much "censored" data about our true,
otherworldly cultural heritage.
When one reads a work
like Vatican Assassins, one can’t help but reflect back on the
purposely "adjusted" and watered down and boring moments in high school
history class. Meanwhile, the true history of what has gone on is
dynamic and full of calculated intrigue.
In this business, I’ve
heard and read a lot of things. But when I had to pick my jaw up off the
floor during the reading of certain historical portions in Eric’s
book—well, let me just say that Truth certainly is stranger, and far
more interesting, than the many fictions we’ve been led to believe are
historical fact. And yet The Truth does fit together like the pieces of
a jigsaw puzzle.
This book SHOULD be a
best-seller, but it is hardly likely to achieve such general
attention—considering how well controlled and censored is the publishing
business. Thus is the reason for our lengthy presentation of this most
astonishing and critically important material.
We are in a time of
Truth being revealed from all directions. And there is probably no more
fundamental, mind-rattling, and previous notions-shattering example of
that than what is being presented here. The interview is directly
followed by a number of pertinent excerpts from Eric’s eye-opening
book—which will be available July 1.
footnote before beginning this interview: The Arts & Entertainment (A&E)
cable television channel just started to air—on Easter Sunday evening!—a
new two-hour documentary called: The Vatican Revealed. Tape it so
you can study it carefully; within the lines of dialog and some of those
people chosen for commentaries are many, many clues to the true power of
the Vatican over world affairs. It would, of course, be much more
revealing to watch the A&E program AFTER having read and digested the
we begin, let me say a few words. The topic of your book is so
comprehensive and covers, literally, all aspects of global control by
the Jesuits, dating back to 1540. I would like to begin our conversation
with a very important point of clarification so that our readers have
something to hold onto while reading the historical narrative we are
about to present. Let me also add that your book is one of the most
compelling, dynamic, genuinely educational historical documents I have
ever read. I want to tell you, I am impressed!
You, literally, link
every major global conflict and political assassination to the hands of
the Jesuit Order. The Jews, as with many other groups you mention, have
been the unwitting pawns in this Jesuit Agenda.
Today, the present.
I’m going to start here, and then we’re going to go way back in time and
work our way up. But, I want to start HERE because it will give a
foundation for going back in time.
Today, who is the
Superior General of the Jesuits, the so-called "Black Pope" [black
here refers to hidden, evil activities, not to race or color] who
gives the orders to the actual Pope. Is it still Jean-Baptist Janssens?
Janssens, Frenchman. No, he passed away in 1964. Then Pedro Arrupe came
to power. Then, after Arrupe died, in 1988, I believe, the present
Jesuit General is.........The
NEW 2009 Jesuit General & his Players.
is he? Physically, where is he?
resides in Rome, at the headquarters of the Jesuits, called the Church
of Jesu. So, the Jesuit General resides in Rome at, what I just called,
the Jesuit headquarters.
Church of Jesu, is that near the Vatican?
not far from the Vatican, right. It’s in the same general area. It’s
headquarters of the Knights of Malta.
Martin: Is it
part of Vatican City, proper?
I believe, yes it is.
does Satan fit into this picture, and what is the ultimate goal of the
Jesuits, the so-called Society of Jesus?
Jesuit General, and the other high Jesuit Generals, they are sorcerers.
They are Luciferians, and they worship what they would call Lucifer.
They do not believe in Satan. They believe in Lucifer.
Now, according to
Alberto Rivera, he was invited—because he was a top Jesuit at the time
in the late ’60s—he was invited to a "Black Mass" in Spain where there
were quite a few top Jesuit Generals present. And he called it a "Black
Mass". Well, when you’re involved in a "Black Mass", you’re involved in
the worship of Lucifer, all dressed in their black capes and so on.
fascinated by this Jesuit General because nobody in the world knows
who this person is. I’ve never heard the name.
Phelps: Let me
just tell you that the name of the book is called Jesuits:
A Multi-Biography, by Jean Lacoutre, and that is available, usually,
in the bookstores. It was published in 1995.
Jean Lacoutre is a
Frenchman. He was a communist, is a communist. On the last page of the
pictures in it, that is right adjacent to page 343, you see the
revolving Jesuit Generals. There’s a Black man, who’s a high Jesuit, he’s a 29 Superior
Jesuit with his cosmopolitan General staff. One of the General staff
looks like Ben Kingsley of Shindler’s List. There are six White
men, and one Black man. And that’s his General staff.
Martin: What is
the process of choosing a successor General?
High Jesuits elect him, and he’s elected for life—unless he becomes a
Martin: And the
so-called "High Jesuits" represent what group?
Phelps: I would
say that they’re the "professed", the high 4th Degree. When a Jesuit is
professed, he is under the Jesuit Oath; he is under the "Bloody
Oath" that I have in my book.
Martin: Do we
have permission to reprint that Oath in our paper?
One of my questions has to do with the Oath and it’s similarity
to the Protocols of the
Learned Elders of Zion
and I wrote that question before I got back to the Protocols
portion of your book.
Jesuits obviously wrote the Protocols
because they have carried
out every protocol in that little handbook. They have carried everything
out. And, Alberto Rivera says—and he was a Jesuit—he was greatly
maligned, not helped at all by the Apostate, Protestants, and Baptists
in this country; he was helped, somewhat, by Jack Chick. Jack Chick
published his story in six volumes, titled Alberto I, II, III, IV, V,
Alberto Rivera says
that it was Jews aligned with the Pope who published the Protocols.
Well, I tend to feel that it was just the Jesuits themselves because
they, and they alone, were the ones who were able to bring this to pass.
They’re the ones in
the government. They’re the ones behind professional sports. The owner
of the Pittsburgh Steelers is a Knight of Malta. The owner of the
Detroit Lions is a Knight of Malta. All your top owners of these ball
clubs, for the most part, are Knights of Malta, getting the people
whooped up in this hoopla over games and sports, while they’re busy
creating a tyranny. So, that was one of the things in the Protocols—that
they would create "amusements".
Another one they used
Walt Disney, 33rd-Degree
Freemason—Disneyworld, Disneyland. Another one was Milton Hersey, with
Hersey Park. They create all of these amusements and games and pastimes
to get the people drunk with pleasure, while they’re busy overthrowing
the Protestant form of government.
does Las Vegas factor into all of this?
Vegas, well, for the most part, is controlled by the Mafia. But all the
high Mafia families are Roman Catholic, and they are ALL subordinate to
the Pope or to the Cardinal of New York, the former Cardinal
O’Connor—because the Commission, the Mafia Commission resides in New
Frank Costello was a
member of the Mob Commission, and he was intimate, personal friends with
Knight of Malta, Hollywood mogul, Joe Kennedy.
And that has not changed.
So, the High Knights
are good, dear brothers with the High Mafia Dons—the Gambinos, the
Lucchese, the Columbos, all of them. And they control Hollywood,
not the Jews. It’s only Jews who are front-men who are involved in
Hollywood and working for the Mafia and for the Cardinal, just like in
politics it would be Arlen Spector. Arlen Spector was Spelly’s [Cardinal
Spellman’s] Jew in the assassination [of President Kennedy],
and he would never say a word about it.
Martin: Now, as
we go through here, if there’s anything that you don’t want me to print,
please let me know because, literally, I’m going to print everything we
say in this conversation.
fine, that’s fine with me because it needs to be said.
get back to the revolving Jesuit Generals. I want to shine the spotlight on this
guy for just a little bit here. Let’s talk about him. What does he do?
Who is he? Let’s talk about his position as "General". How do they
exercise this control over the Pope? Does the Pope know he’s a pawn?
Phelps: Ok, one
question at a time. So, which question do you want me to deal with?
just shine the light right on the Count.
Jesuit General, ok.
start there, and you tell me everything you want to tell me about that
Jesuit General is the absolute, complete, and total dictator and
autocrat of the Order. When he speaks, his provincials move. The
provincials are his major subordinates. There are around 83 provincials
As I understand it,
the Jesuit Order has divided the world into 83 regions. Ok? For each
region, there is a Jesuit provincial. There are 10 provincials in the
United States. There is one for Central America. There is one for
Ireland. They’ve divided up the world into these provinces.
So it’s old Babylonian
provincial government, centered in Nebuchadnezzar or the Jesuit General
himself; so it’s strictly a Roman form of government where all the
states or provinces are subordinate to this worldwide sovereign.
The Jesuit General
exercises full and complete power over the Order. He meets with his
provincials. When they decide to start a war or an agitation, he gets
the information from the provincial of that country, how best to go
about this, the demeanor of the people, and then he uses legitimate
grievances to foam an agitation—like the 1964 Civil Rights Movement.
That was ALL a Jesuit agitation, completely, because the end result was
more consolidation of power in Washington with the 1964 Civil Rights Act
that was written by [the longtime President of the University of
Notre Dame, the Reverend] Theodore Hesburgh.
The Jesuit General
rules the world through his provincials. And the provincials then, of
course, rule the lower Jesuits, and there are many Jesuits who are not
"professed", so many of the lower Jesuits have no idea what’s going on
at the top. They have no concept of the power of their Order.
It’s just like
The lower have no idea that the High Shriner Freemasons are working for
the Jesuit General. They think that they’re just doing works and being
good people. But the bottom line is that the high-level Freemasons are
subject, also, to the Jesuit General because the Jesuit General, with
Fredrick the Great, wrote the High Degrees, the last 8 Degrees, of the
Scottish Rite Freemasonry when Fredrick protected them when they were
suppressed by the Pope in 1773.
So, you have the
alignment with the Jesuit Order and the most powerful Freemason they had
in the craft, Fredrick the Great, during their suppression. That is an
irrefutable conclusion. And then, when you see the Napoleonic Wars, the
French Revolution and the Napoleonic Wars carried out by Freemasonry,
everything Napoleon did, and the Jacobins, whatever they did, completely
benefited the Jesuit Order.
It’s to this end that
Alexander Dumas wrote his The Count Of Monte Cristo. The Count is
the Jesuit General. Monte=Mount, Cristo=Christ. The Count of the Mount
of Christ. Alexander Dumas was talking about the Jesuit General getting
vengeance when the Jesuits were suppressed, and many of them were
consigned to an island, three hours sailing, West, off the coast of
Portugal. And so, when the Jesuits finally regained their power, they
punished all of the monarchs of Europe who had suppressed them, drove
them from their thrones, including the Knights of Malta from Malta,
And Alexander Dumas,
who fought for the Italian patriots in 1848, to free Rome from
the temporal power of the Pope, wrote many books and one of the books
was to expose this, and that was The Count Of Monte Cristo.
So, when you read that
book, bear in mind that it’s really a satire on the Jesuit Order
regaining their power in France. The Count of Monte Cristo has an
intelligence apparatus that can’t be beat. Well, that’s the Jesuit
But the Count doesn’t
get what he really ought to have, or his last wish, and that’s the love
of woman. He gains back all of his political power; he gains back
everything he lost; but he doesn’t have the love of a woman. And THAT is
the Jesuit Order. They have no women. They have no love of a woman.
Because to have a wife, to have a woman, means you have an allegiance to
your wife and family, and you cannot obey the General. That’s why they
will NEVER be married, and that’s one of the great KEYS to their
They can betray a
nation and walk away. They can betray all the Irish Catholics getting on
the Titanic, and walk away. They can betray us in Vietnam and
walk away. They can betray us every time we go to the hospital and get
radiated and cut and drugged, and walk away, because it’s "for the
greater glory of God"—Ad
Majorem Dei Gloriam: the greater glory of the god who sits in Rome.
Martin: What is
the ULTIMATE goal of the Jesuits?
ultimate goal is the rule of the world, with the Pope of their making,
from Solomon’s rebuilt Temple in Jerusalem. That’s their ultimate goal.
Martin: And why
is Solomon’s Temple rebuilt so important?
the Jesuits have always wanted that. When Ignatius Loyola first started
the Order, one of the first things he did was, he wanted to go to
Jerusalem and set up the Jesuit headquarters there. So, he went there,
he tried to do it and failed, came back, went to school, started his
Latin studies, etc. Maybe it might be a good idea to just review a
little bit about Ignatius Loyola.
Ignatius Loyola was a Spanish soldier, and he was wounded at a battle
between the French and the Spanish, and his leg was shattered. Well, the
French General, because Loyola was very brave in conflict, ordered his
own doctors to attend Loyola. So they set the leg and sent him back to
his home—which, of course, he was royalty to the Counsel of Loyola in
Spain, in the area of the Basques.
Loyola, through his
series of desiring to regain his leg—it had healed improperly, so he
made a rack where he would stretch the leg, with severe, horrible, awful
pain—and trying to stretch this leg to get it back to normal shape, he
endured awful, terrible pain. He had it rebroken, again, a couple of
times and it still did not heal properly, so he had a perpetual limp. He
could no longer be the courtier among women, and as a result, he went
into this depression, and he then had this vision of the saints, etc.,
etc., and he wrote his spiritual exercises.
I will stop at the
spiritual exercises, just for a minute, but I’ll take up from there.
Loyola then wanted to form an army, but when this happened with his
spiritual exercises, those spiritual exercises would be basic training
for all of his Jesuits. That’s what they will ALL go through. That’s
what every Jesuit goes through today.
One of the maxims of
the spiritual exercises is that if my superior says "black is white and
white is black", then that’s the way it is. That is in his spiritual
exercises. That is what is quoted in JFK, when Kevin Costner is
telling his people: "Hey, people, we’ve got to start thinking like the
CIA. Black is white and white is black." That was a Jesuit giveaway that
the Jesuits produced that movie, because they’re quoting Ignatius Loyola
in that movie from his spiritual exercises.
So, Loyola had an
indomitable will. He had a will of steel, and he set his mind to regain
back what the Papacy had lost to the Reformation. And so, he went to the
Pope, and the Pope in 1540 then created the Jesuit Order. But this man
is a soldier, he’s a lawyer, and he put together a legion of soldiers
and warriors to get back what Rome had lost, as well as institute a
World Government for the Pope, from Jerusalem. This was in 1540.
He started the Order
in 1536. He was arrested by the Inquisition, and he was released, and he
went to the Pope; he threw himself at the feet of the Pope. He would be
completely at his service. The Pope chartered him, and that Pope was
Pius III. The Pope chartered them, created the Jesuit Order; now he has
Papal protection, and they began their awful history of deeds of blood.
And war after war after war after war, they’re all attributed to the
Jesuit Order in some way. Catholic nobles, with lots of money, donated
castles and schools and money to the Jesuit Order.
they own has been given to them or stolen by them. Of course, they stole
all of the fortunes of the Jews in World War II. They stole all their
gold, all their assets and everything, whenever they went into a
country. What’s just been released is NOTHING compared to what they’ve
In Edmond Paris’s
book, printed by Ozark Publications, called The Vatican Against
Europe, it gets into great detail of what they did. It calls it—the
last 30 years of war is all attributable to the Jesuits, their massacres
of the Serbs and Jews, etc. But Edmond Paris did not understand that the
Jesuit General—and this is one of the most important points I want to
make about the Jesuit General is in complete control of
the international intelligence community: that’s the CIA, the FBI, the
KGB, the Israeli Mossad, the German BND, the British SIS. The Jesuit
General is in COMPLETE CONTROL of the entire intelligence apparatus—FBI,
every bureaucratic agency in this country, all of it; he is in complete
control of it.
So, whenever he wants
to find something out about an individual, they put in the Social
Security number, and everything from all of the intelligence apparatus
kicks-in and he and his provincials can review everything about that
man. Credit cards, you name it, everything that’s attached to Rome’s
social security number, which FDR put upon us in 1933 with the help of
Spellman; at the time, I believe he was Archbishop, or maybe it was
Cardinal Hayes—but Rome was behind FDR in putting him in office.
The couple of things
that he did was implement social insecurity, the income tax, and
recognizing Joseph Stalin’s bloody Jesuit USSR government. So, with the
giving of us the Social Security number, that is Rome’s number—that’s
why I refuse to use it—and that’s why they want everybody using it for
everything: driver’s license, tax return, credit card, everything you
do, that number is you and that number is Rome’s number.
Martin: Let me
just back-up here for a minute. What comes to mind is Louis Freeh, head
of the FBI.
Catholic, good altar boy. Probably a Knight of Columbus; I can’t prove
it. But anybody with that kind of power has got to be a Knight of
And the Knights of
Columbus implement Jesuit politics. And Louis Freeh was the one behind
the Waco atrocity and the Oklahoma City bombing atrocity. And his top
sniper was a Japanese Roman Catholic named Lon Horiuchi.
So, it’s Roman
Catholics in control, Knights in control of the FBI, who carried out all
of this killing. And those two men, Louis Freeh and Lon Horiuchi are
personally accountable to Cardinal O’Connor of New York.
And Cardinal O’Connor of New York is the most powerful Cardinal in the
country. He is the military vicar. And that’s why Bush kissed his fanny
for going to Bob Jones, because Cardinal O’Connor is the
King of the American Empire. And he rules his Empire from that Palace,
St. Patrick’s Cathedral, "the little Vatican".
Martin: And is
he in contact, do you think, with the Jesuit General?
course. O’Connor himself is not a Jesuit, but the Jesuits are like the
SS of the Catholic Church. They maintain order.
And the ones closest
to him who maintain order are the Jesuits of Fordham University. Now,
one of them—the head of Fordham University, I believe he is an Irishman,
is also a member of the CFR [Council on Foreign Relations]. And I
have that right here in the Annual Report of the CFR of 1993. Those
Jesuits at Fordham maintain semblance and rule over the Cardinal in New
York. And, of course, the powerful Jesuits of Fordham include Avery
Dulles and John Foster Dulles, one of the writers of the book on the
Second Vatican Council.
Let’s back-up now, let’s go back. What’s the Council of Trent?
Council of Trent was the response of Rome to the Protestant Reformation.
Remember—the Protestant Reformation brought us all of the political
liberty that we know of today. There’s no such thing as national
sovereignty without the Reformation. There’s no such thing as private
rights without the Reformation. There’s no such thing as the Law of
Nations, as we know of it today, of Montesquieu and the others, without
So, when the
Reformation came with their doctrines of salvation by grace through
faith alone, and that there was no need for the priesthood to go to
Heaven—that all we need is salvation in Christ, and Romans 1:17:
the righteous shall live by faith. When the Reformation came, it
completely stripped Rome of its spiritual power. The priests were no
longer wanted because the people were getting the word of God in a
Bible, specifically in Holland, England, and Germany. And so, with
these great revivals breaking forth and the Reformation happening,
nations were breaking away from the power of the Pope. The Holy Roman
Empire was breaking up. Charles V, the Emperor, resigned and became a
monk and a gardener. So, the Lord was moving mightily in breaking the
power of the Holy Roman Empire, started by Charlemagne and the Pope.
Well, this was not
good for Rome because they were losing lots of money. The nations were
not paying "Peter’s pence" anymore, which today we call "foreign aid" in
this country. And so the Pope was very upset about his.
What’s he going to do?
These nations are breaking away from us; they’re not under our temporal
or spiritual power; and it’s very important to remember that the Pope
claims two powers—spiritual and temporal—and with the breaking of his
spiritual power, he then lost his temporal power. In other words, he no
longer had the ability to rule the people through the king of the
country, because the king was breaking away, like Henry VIII.
So, Henry VIII broke
away from the Roman Church and formed the Church of England; he no
longer was subject to the Pope. This was happening in England, in
Germany, in Holland, and other places.
As a result of this,
the Devil raised up Ignatius Loyola with his demonisms, his "spiritual
exercises" and—because Loyola had been a member of the Spanish
Alumbrados, which is what we call the Illuminati today,
and he used the Jesuit Order to attempt to regain back what had been
taken by the Reformation—what the Lord had done through Luther, Calvin,
and Knox. And, by the way, Luther, Calvin, and Knox—none of those men
died violent deaths. They all lived to older age and died peacefully,
amidst the power of the Jesuit machinations.
The Council of Trent
consists of 25 Sessions. Those 25 Sessions accurse and condemn all the
doctrines of the Reformation. It condemns anybody who does not believe
that the literal Jesus Christ is in the host [holy communion bread],
and that his literal blood is in the wine. That’s called
transubstantiation. Anybody who does not believe that is an accursed
anathema. Anybody who believes that their salvation is outside the
Catholic Church is accursed anathema. Anybody who believes in
justification by grace through faith—anathema, accursed. Anybody who
believes that the Pope is not the vicar of Christ—accursed, anathema.
You see, all of these doctrines were being put forth as a result of
reading the Bible, which produced the Reformation, and so the
Jesuits accursed everything that the Reformers were preaching. This is
all in Law called the Council of Trent.
In the 4th Session,
which is probably the most important Session, the Jesuits condemn
freedom of speech, freedom of the press, and freedom of conscience. So,
no man has the right to choose his own religion; no man has the right to
publish what he feels is the truth; and no man has the right to freedom
Those rights were
secured by our Baptist/Calvinist forefathers in the First Amendment.
The man who wrote the First Amendment was James Madison, who was
a Baptist/Calvinist, and he was told by that Baptist/Calvinist in
Virginia, Doc. John Leland: "If you don’t secure all those rights,
Virginia will not ratify the Constitution." Virginia was a
So, we have a warfare
between the Council of Trent and the doctrines of the Reformation,
particularly as outlined by John Calvin in his Institutes Of The
Christian Religion. Calvin  wrote the
Institutes Of The Christian Religion, he finished it when he was 27,
and he dedicated it to the King of France. And because the Jesuits so
hated him, he was driven from France and he resided in Geneva to the day
of his death, when he became Governor of Geneva. It’s Calvin and his
Institutes Of The Christian Religion vs. Loyola and his Council of
Trent, if you want it sewed-up in two major documents.
of Trent was what year?
1545-1563, eighteen years. And Trent is a little town in Italy. So, it
was a Council that took place in the town of Trent, Italy.
Presbyterian Westminster Confession And Faith
that was finished in 1648, after the 30 Years War, is another extension
of Calvin’s Institutes, and is what the Church of Scotland and
the Covenanters went by when they resisted the powers of
Rome and England. That document is a major document, and it’s not the
new Westminster Confession, it’s the old one of 1648, where they
called the Pope the man of sin, that Roman Anti Christ,
and they also denounced anti-Christian tyranny.
And that it is their
duty, to use what they call "the sword of the spirit", which is the Word
of God, which we read in Ephesians, Chapter 6, and "the sword of
just defense"—the gun, the sword.
So, us Calvinists
believe that there is a time for peace and a time for war, and we do not
refuse to go to the battlefield when it’s necessary. It was the
Calvinists who gave us our political liberty in England with Cromwell.
He was a Calvinist and an independent Baptist. It was Calvinists in
Holland who gave the Dutch their political liberty, with William of
Orange, and later his son, Prince Maurice, and then later, in our great
country, when it was Washington, the Freemason who did not go into that
Masonic Lodge that last 30 years of his life—in his own words—who was a
Baptist and a Calvinist. He was baptized in the First Baptist Church of
New York by one of his captains, Pastor Gano, all surrounded by
That’s why they didn’t
surrender at Valley Forge; that’s why, when they were naked, when they
went through the snow, barefoot, they endured that because they were
Bible-believing Calvinists and they refused to submit to the tyranny
of King George, who was controlled by the Jesuits.
And that is the soul
of our country. If we lose that soul, we’ve lost everything. And those
very same Baptists, in the Second Amendment, secured their right
to bear arms, because they secured the right, the "sword of just
defense". And the "sword of the spirit" is contained in the First
Amendment, the right to have the Bible never taken from them.
The two swords of Calvinism are secured in the First and
Second Amendments. Without those first two Amendments, all
the others are nothing.
Martin: Well, I
got to my question #2. So, let’s go to #3 of the seventy. (laughter)
How does Shriner
Freemason President Harry Truman’s signing into law of the
Emergency War Powers Act of 1950 factor into the Jesuit Agenda?
of all, Harry Truman, who the Japanese called "Dirty Harry"—when they
heard the movie Dirty Harry came out, they thought it was a movie
about Harry Truman, according to my Japanese pastor friend, Daniel Fuji,
who has passed away.
Harry Truman was put
in office by the Jesuits, the Pensergast Democratic machine in Missouri.
Harry Truman takes over after FDR’s murder, because he was
murdered in the home of Bernard Baruch. When he did that, he then
finished up the war with the hoax called the dropping of the nuclear
bombs, to purposely create this greater hoax called the Cold War, that
would enable the Vatican to knock over country after country after
country, and replace the leaders with dictators, subordinate to the
Pope. That was the purpose of the Cold War.
And so, when Harry
Truman in 1950 signed into law the Emergency War Powers Act, the Cold
War was in full force. They were building bomb shelters, etc. So the
nation was in kind of a frenzy.
When he signed this
into law, it put the whole country under military or martial law, and
that’s when the flags in every courtroom, state and federal, began to be
changed. And every state flag and every U.S. flag is now trimmed in gold
fringe. And whenever you see a flag trimmed in gold fringe, that means
that it is the flag of the Commander-in-Chief. Now, if it’s the state
flag, it means that’s the flag of the governor, as Commander-in-Chief.
And if it’s the federal flag, or the national flag, more correctly, it’s
the flag of the Commander-in-Chief in Washington.
So, all your courts
are nothing more than courts of military rule. They all proceed with
summary procedures. The jury has no power of jury nullification. And
they are simply enforcing the laws of the Empire, which I call 14th
Amendment America, which is a military-style, King of England-style
country. The courts are nothing more than courts of the king’s bench, as
you can see in Blackstone’s Commentaries.
And the banks, as you
walk into every bank, they all have a flag trimmed in gold fringe. The
bank is what England would call, in Blackstone’s day, the king’s bank.
So, we have the king’s bank, and we have the king’s bench. And it’s run
according to military rule, according to Berkheimer’s great work
Military Rule And Martial Law, published in 1914.
When Harry Truman did
this, there was a consummation of a great plan to put us under the
Emergency War Powers Act and, actually, a war rule. "Daylight savings
time" is what was called "war time". This country only went to daylight
savings time during World War II, and they called it, at that time, war
time. So, nothing’s changed. We’ve never gone back to not turning back
our clocks. We’re still on war time. The income tax is a war tax. It was
called a victory tax in 1942.
So, people are paying
a war tax, they’re under war time, they’re under an emergency war powers
act, and the courts are war courts.
Regarding the assassination of President John Kennedy, which could
take this entire interview, you say that the assassination was ordered
by the Jesuit General, executed by Pope Paul VI, and carried out by the
"American Pope", Francis Cardinal Spellman—who, in turn, used the
Knights of Malta, Shriner Freemasons, Knights of Columbus, and Mafia
Dons, including the FBI and CIA, to carry out the order from Rome. Would
you explain why you believe your particular theory on the assassination
to be an accurate representation of the facts?
Alright, number one: The powers that be are properly outlined [in his
book], and proven through two centuries of showing how it’s all been
put together. Now, as to why, I will be conservative and stick with
Fletcher Prouty’s reasons, that he outlined in his JFK and also
his other book called The Secret Team.
The reason why Kennedy
was assassinated was he wanted to end the Vietnam War, and he wanted to
end the rule of the CIA. That begets two questions: Did Rome want the
Vietnam War? And, did Rome control the CIA? The answer is yes on both
We know, on its face,
that the Vietnam War was called "Spelly’s War"—Cardinal Spellman’s war.
He went over to the warfront many times and he called the American
soldiers the "soldiers of Christ". The man who was the Commander of the
American forces was a Roman Catholic, CFR member, possibly a Knight of
Columbus, I don’t know, but he was General William Westmoreland.
So, Westmoreland was
Cardinal Spellman’s agent to make sure that war was prosecuted properly.
And another overseer of Westmoreland was Cardinal Spellman’s boy, Lyndon
Baines Johnson. Lyndon Baines Johnson was a 33rd-degree Freemason. He
was also part of the assassination, with J. Edgar Hoover, another
And Johnson went to
Cardinal Spellman’s death at St. Patrick’s Cathedral, and the picture
can be seen in Cooney’s work The American Pope. So, Johnson was
completely at the beck and call of Cardinal Spellman through Cartha
DeLoach, the 3rd-in-control of the FBI. According to Curt Gentry, in his
Hoover: The Man And The Secrets, DeLoach had a
phone at his bedside direct to Johnson, and Johnson could call him
anytime. DeLoach was a Knight of Malta, subject to Spellman.
Spellman wanted the
Vietnam War, why? Spellman was controlled by the Jesuits of Fordham. Why
did the Jesuit General want the Vietnam War? The people of Vietnam, the
Buddhists, were unconvertible. They would not convert to Catholicism.
They didn’t need Rome.
There had been a
Jesuit presence in Vietnam for centuries, so it had been decided that
about a million or so Buddhists would have to be "purged". They would
later continue this purge of Cambodia, with Pol Pot, and the purge is
yet for Thailand. It was a purging of Laos, Cambodia, and Vietnam of all
these Buddhists, just like they purged the Buddhists of China with Mao
Zedong, because Mao Zedong was completely controlled by the Jesuits. So,
they wanted the Vietnam War.
The other thing is
that Rome is in control of the drug trade. The Vatican controls all of
the drug trade—all of the heroin, all of the opium, all of the cocaine,
everything going around in Columbia.
Columbia has a
concordat with the Pope. A concordat is a treaty with the Pope. Hitler
had a concordat. Mussolini had a concordat.
Franco had a concordat. They want to set up
a concordat here, which was the reason for Reagan formally recognizing
the sovereign state of Vatican City in 1984. The greatest traitor we
ever had was Ronald Reagan.
So, they had a
concordat. Columbia has a concordat. Do you think that drugs running out
of Columbia, with a country that has a concordat with Rome, is not
controlled by Rome? If Rome didn’t want the drug trade out of Columbia,
they’d end the concordat. The whole drug trade is run by high Mafia
families out of the country of Columbia, subject to the Jesuit General.
And the Jesuit General
ran the Opium trade, a couple of centuries ago, out of China. They ran
the silk trade, the pearl trade. The movie Shogun is but a slight
scratching of the surface of the Jesuit "black ships" that trafficked in
all of this silk and pearls and gold and opals and everything they could
pull out of the East, including opium.
The Vietnam War was to
consolidate and control this huge massive drug-trade that would inundate
every American city with drugs, being brought in by the CIA with their
Air America, and then distributed by the Trafficante
family throughout the United States—Santos Trafficante out of Miami.
So we have the Mafia
and the CIA working together in the drug trade. We have the Mafia and
the CIA working together in the assassination of Kennedy.
The first reason why
the Jesuit General [at that time, Jean-Baptist Janssens]
wanted Kennedy out of the way was because he was going to end the
The second reason is,
he wanted to end the reign of the CIA, because the CIA had betrayed him
in the person of McGeorge Bundy, by not giving the cover to the Cuban
patriots to retake Cuba from that Roman Catholic, Jesuit-trained,
grease-ball bastard—he was a bastard, his father was a Nazi—Fidel
Kennedy was betrayed
by the CIA at the Bay of Pigs invasion, which sacrificed all the
patriots on the shores of the Bay of Pigs there, so Castro had no real
opposition. This was the same tactic, used by the CIA and the KGB at the
top, working together with Angleton controlling it, in the Hungarian
Revolution, when the CIA fomented that revolution, and then betrayed all
of those patriots into the hands of the Soviet army and KGB, which
infuriated certain top CIA officials.
It’s the same tactic:
you raise up a revolution and you sacrifice the men who truly want to
resist. When that happened, when McGeorge Bundy stopped the air cover of
the Bay of Pigs invasion, that ended that resistance to Castro and it
enthroned him into power. And, of course, it was meant to be by the
Jesuits because they HAD trained him. So now Kennedy looks bad. He’s got
egg all over his face. What does he want to do? He signs a Memorandum,
according to Fletcher Prouty, and takes all of the power away from the
CIA, and gives it to the Joint Chiefs of Staff.
The CIA was built by
the Knights of Malta. One of the founders of the CIA was "Wild" Bill
Donovan, an Irish Roman Catholic, who are the most
fanatical, and his brother was a Dominican priest, Vincent. So, the CIA
was founded by this high Roman Catholic, the first head, to solidify the
Catholic or the Vatican control of it.
I’m not against the
Catholic people; I’m against Rome’s hierarchy. The American Catholic
people know NOTHING of what’s going on. And if they did, there would be
a march on St. Patrick’s tomorrow morning. So, as I’m against the
hierarchy, I’m showing that Kennedy was against the Vietnam War, and he
was going to do away with the CIA.
Well, the Jesuits had
brought in all of their top Nazi SS soldiers into the CIA because the
Jesuits were using the SS to kill the Jews in Europe. When the
Einsatzgruppen went into Russia, the Jesuits followed with the SS and
purged Western Russia of all its Jews. That’s why Stalin deliberately
killed 40,000 of his best officers. That’s why he kicked out his best
generals, purged them, because he wanted to make sure that the Red Army
would lose with the advance of the German army, because following that
would come the SS and purge Russia of the Jews that Stalin so hated. And
by the way, justice is often poetic because Stalin’s daughter married a
Now, the CIA was
composed of the SS. The CIA now was an arm—and the intelligence arm—of
the Vatican. The Knights of Malta were throughout. Casey was a Knight of
Malta. Angleton was a Knight of Malta. The Knights were through and
through. Angleton manned the "Vatican desk", and that is a desk within
the CIA that has a direct link to the Vatican.
So, Kennedy wanted to
end this "intelligence community". That was the end of him.
Thus for anyone
attempting to end the CIA, and attempting to end the Vietnam War, and
also because he attacked the Jesuits’ Federal Reserve Bank by printing
United States Notes, they got rid of him. They killed our only Roman
And it’s another piece
of poetic justice that a Roman Catholic—not Protestants, like Harry
Truman, FDR, and others—it’s a Roman Catholic who truly sought to resist
the temporal power of the Pope in this country. And in many ways, even
though Kennedy was, in fact, a socialist and communist, at least he
resisted the temporal power of the Pope. And for that we should be
thankful and remember his name.
But what have they
done to his name? They’ve slammed it. They drag it into the dirt. Every
time you see it on TV, they parade before you his womanizing, which I
don’t deny, but my goodness, can’t we give him some credit where credit
is due? That’s why they got rid of John F. Kennedy.
And then, of course,
as soon as he’s assassinated, John McCone, the head of the CIA, the
following day goes to the White House and they reverse Kennedy’s
Memorandum of reversing the Vietnam War and make a full-scale, carte
The CIA then is
tremendously and heavily funded, because it was a CIA war. And there
they tried all of their new technology, their anti-gravity machines,
their men who they’re trying to make like the "million-dollar man". They
tried out all their new technology in Vietnam. It was a great
experimental theater, and Kennedy knew this. He knew it, and he knew
that the American people had no idea what was going down, and he still
tried to resist it, against his father’s warnings. Because his father
was the most powerful Knight of Malta in the Empire.
theories on why they took out junior?
According to Tom Kuncle, in his publication, John F. Kennedy, Jr. wanted
to find his father’s real killers, and he had the power to publish the
conclusion. So, they took him out right away. They would not allow that
haven’t you been taken out?
I am immortal—until the Lord is done with me. I am a Calvinist and a
Baptist, and we believe in the sovereignty of God. And as long as we are
operating in His Will, they cannot touch us, regardless of their power.
is why we’re having this conversation.
is why we’re having the conversation. Don’t think for one moment they’re
not tapping this phone. They know this. The issue is here. We’re talking
about a providential, sovereign God who wishes to move, using second
causes, men, just as the Devil does.
The Devil always uses
second causes, men. So, it’s one group of men vs. another group of men,
and one path leads to evil, and the true, almighty God leads to
The problem is, with
us, there are very few men who want to believe God anymore. Nobody
believes He can deliver anymore. It’s just a handful of us who say:
"Well, we’re going to do His Will; we’re going to trust Him in His
And like the Hebrews
getting ready to be thrown into the fiery furnace of Nebuchadnezzar, our
God is able to deliver us.
We’re going to tell the truth!
see here. I can throw away a lot of these questions. So much of it
seems, in a way, irrelevant to our current times because there’s so much
going on now. But, good grief! I was just stunned to read in your book
of all the historical things that have happened as a result of these
evil people. You dedicated the book to four Roman Catholics who, I’m
sure, no one has ever heard of: Charles Chiniquy, Jeremiah Crowley,
Emmett McLaughlin, and Alberto Rivera. Why them?
those Roman Catholic men were priests; they left the priesthood and told
the truth about what was really happening. And all four of them, except
one, I think Emmett McLaughlin, paid with their life. Chiniquy was the
great exposer of the Jesuit assassination of President Lincoln, when he
wrote his masterpiece Fifty Years In The Church Of Rome in 1886.
He proves that Lincoln was assassinated by the Jesuits, and that it was
covered-up by our government at the time.
Jeremiah Crowley: that
priest was a great Irishman who came here and, seeing the corruption of
the Archdiocese in Chicago, that it was so corrupt, he left it and
exposed it. And, of course, he later came to Christ and became a
Bible-believer, which they would call a Protestant. Protestants
today don’t believe the Bible. Protestantism of today is an empty
shell, it’s nothing. But, back then, in 1912, they believed the Bible.
Crowley, then, exposed
many things, and one of the things he exposed, that helped me with this,
was that he warned that the Jesuits, with their Knights of
Columbus—which, he says, the Knights of Columbus, named after Columbus,
who he tells us was a Spanish Jew and a pirate and a deflowerer of young
girls—that Columbus was no Christian.
He has a tremendous
section in his book on Columbus. That the purpose of the Knights of
Columbus was to fulfill Jesuitical politics, and part of those politics
was to restore the temporal power of the Pope because, you remember, the
Pope had lost that in 1870 and they wanted to get it back. And they got
it back with Mussolini in 1929.
Well, in the book that
Crowley wrote in 1912, he says that Taft and Teddy Roosevelt were all
cow-towing to the Pope and the Cardinals of New York. And he said
they’re going to use our military to restore the Pope’s temporal power
around the world.
And THAT was
absolutely correct. That is American foreign policy. And the
Council of Trent is the American foreign policy of today. That’s what’s
going on in Serbia and Bosnia. It’s the Council of Trent—the Jesuits
using the American Air Force to bomb those orthodox people to
smithereens. But, that was Crowley’s great contribution.
McLaughlin wrote several books. He wrote The People’s Padre;
he wrote Crime And Immorality In The Catholic Church, showing
that Catholic nations are more lawless and more criminal than Protestant
nations, and he proved it with statistics from the jails.
Emmett McLaughlin also
wrote another book called The Assassination Of Abraham Lincoln,
where he, again, shows that Lincoln was assassinated by the Jesuits. So,
Emmett McLaughlin came out of the Catholic Church. To my knowledge, he
never was born again. He never was saved, but he did tell the truth. He
married a nun, and lived a virtuous and honorable life after he left.
The last one was, of
course, Alberto Rivera, who was greatly hated by the Vatican because he
was a very high Jesuit who came out and, in the late ’60s, about 1969,
exposed the power of Rome in the ecumenical movement, that Rome
controlled Kathryn Kuhlman; that Rome controlled Billy Graham; that Rome
controlled, virtually, our government—Ronald Reagan.
Reagan, when he took
the Oath of Office, faced the obelisk, indicating that this country will
ultimately have a concordat. So, Alberto Rivera converted to Christ,
wonderfully, and he started a ministry called The Anti-Christ
Information Center, out of Los Angeles.
They tried to kill him
five times. A dentist jammed a needle up between his teeth, trying to
give him an infection in the brain. When he passed out, about a year or
so later, they couldn’t figure it out. Everybody was praying for him.
And this was discovered when he went to another dentist. He had it
He was pushed in front
of a subway train. They tried five times to kill the man, and finally he
died, I believe, of cancer, in a hospital, about three years ago. But
these four wonderful, great, Catholic priests did their best to expose
the power of Rome and its attempts to destroy our sovereign, Protestant, Bible-believing nation. And so, to them, I dedicate it.
compelled you to write this book? What started it for you?
Phelps: I was
always taught to be a patriot, a patriot first and foremost—America
first, and everybody else second. Later, when I came to know the Lord,
at 17, I realized the Bible taught the same thing—that the Lord
had instituted nations. The Lord never instituted world governments;
that’s always the result of the Devil’s working.
So, being a patriot
and a nationalist—believing in national sovereignty—I was saved at 17,
went into the Air Force, was garrisoned in a nuclear weapons area for
three years in Germany, came back and started to go to Bible
When I went to
Bible college, the issue of the King James came
up, as far as it being an archaic version. And that’s what I used and I
had never given it a thought. Well, some were using NIV, some NASB, and
I thought: "Well, maybe it’s just a modern version of what I have here."
And I thought: "Well, if they want to use that, that’s fine, but I’ll
use the King James."
I found that the
underlying Greek text for the King James, the Textus Receptus,
was the Greek text of the Reformation. It represents 95% of the existing
manuscripts that we have today. The Greek text that underlies all these
other versions—there’s a Westcott and Hort Greek text, which I then
discovered was really a conspiracy to adulterate the Textus Receptus
in England, led by Brooke Foss Westcott and Anthony Hort, who were
Later, I found out
that they had invited Cardinal Newman to sit in on the revision
committee. Well, Cardinal Newman was a traitor to the Anglican Church,
with his Track 90, which blew-off the Anglican Church. He
then left England and he was then a Cardinal by Pius IX.
So, here we have
Cardinal Newman, and E. B. Pusey, had been invited to sit on this
revision committee, the end result being a Greek text that had been
produced that was pro-Jerome’s Latin Vulgate.
Jerome’s Latin Vulgate is the basis for the Jesuit’s
Reheims-Douay text, that was put out in 1582, that was attempting to
rival William Tyndale’s English text, which later became the King
James Version of 1611.
So now I see this
awful Jesuit hand in my Bible college, attempting to deprive me
of the Word of God, the authorized version of 1611, in it’s present
edition of 1769. Now I thought "Well, here the Jesuits are, what else
have they done?" And the next thing I was led to was the Lincoln
assassination. And I can remember reading Burke McCarty’s The
Suppressed Truth About The Assassination Of Abraham Lincoln, and
weeping in the back room, when I was in college.
Martin: For me,
one of the most compelling portions of your book was the series of
revelations about Lincoln. I was stunned by that.
what they did. Remember, Lincoln was not going to go along with the
14th Amendment. He wanted those Southern states to re-enter the
Union on the same footing that they had left, which would have left us
with a federal Republic as Washington had established it. This the
Jesuits would not allow. It would be converted into an Empire. The
states would be subordinate provinces to Washington. And the 14th
Amendment would accomplish this with the reversion of citizenship.
And Lincoln was re-elected, and he was ready to end this, and that’s why
they killed him. Kennedy was ready to implement his things; they would
not let him be re-elected.
Martin: This is
a total aside. Have you ever come across The Jefferson Bible?
Jefferson Bible—and maybe you know this—is Matthew, Mark, and Luke.
And Thomas Jefferson, being the Deist, being the pagan that he was, cut
out all the supernatural from those three gospels. Jefferson was a
Deist; he was involved with the French Freemasons who were involved in
the French Revolution, and he was not here at the writing of our
Protestant Constitution. So, the Lord put him out of the picture.
Jefferson was just used to help with the Revolution—because the Lord
does use the ungodly for good things. But Jefferson copied much of the
Declaration Of Independence from the Mechlenburg Declaration,
written by Calvinistic Presbyterians of North Carolina, when they
seceded, when that county of Mechlenburg seceded from the Colonies.
heard of it.
you’ll find it in Presbyterian writings. You can find it from D. James
Kennedy; he has a thing on it. And Jefferson copied, at the end: "...and
to this end we devote our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor."
That was copied
directly from the Mechlenburg Declaration. Jefferson was a
plagiarist; he was a high Freemason; and he was out of here at the time
of the writing of our Constitution. And the reason why the people
of Virginia did elect him to office was because he was a State’s Rights
man. He wanted limited powers in Washington, and that was a good thing.
And when Jefferson was elected, he undid everything the king-president
John Adams did, with his Alien & Sedition Laws, because John Adams
wanted to be a king, and Jefferson undid it, and Jefferson got two terms
looking at some things that are a little further back now. The
Secreta Monita. What’s the significance of that?
Secret Instructions [excerpts at the end of this interview] are
the handbooks that are given to the professed Jesuits, those under
extreme oath. [The oath is presented in full at the end of
this interview.] And it tells them how to conduct their plans,
subjugating peoples and nations to the Jesuit General, and thus, to the
temporal power of the Pope. It tells how they are to deceive. It shows
how they are to swindle rich widows out of their fortunes, like they did
with Astor’s second wife who survived the Titanic catastrophe. It shows
their general approach on how to do things.
This particular book
cannot be known, and if it’s ever published, they will deny it’s
existence. But when you see the works that the Jesuits have done, it’s
in complete agreement with the Secreta Monita.
There is a very
interesting section in Edwin R. Sherwin’s book The Engineer Core Of
Hell, written in 1886 I believe—another suppressed work. It’s
usually in the archives of all the older libraries back here. And he
shows how this Secreta Monita was discovered in South America by
a Mason, and the Mason managed to escape to a lodge after being shot. He
turned the Secreta Monita over to the lodge, and then these
certain Freemasons saw the Secreta Monita. There are certain
low-level Freemasons who believe that the Jesuit Order is their enemy,
so that’s why it was taken to the lodge and then published. But the
high-level Masons, of course, work with them. The Secreta Monita
was discovered once that way. It was published in Holland. Then, in
1857, reprinted by England.
Pascal’s Provincial Letters had a devastating impact on exposing the
Pascal was a Huguenot, a French Calvinist. So here we have another
fearless man. He doesn’t fear death; he’s going to tell the truth. So
Blaise Pascal wrote a series of letters that were written to and from
provincials, and he wrote them in a satirical manner, that of course
excited that wonderful French mind. The French, of course, came to the
conclusion that this was absolutely the truth, and then they moved to
suppress the Jesuits again. But his Provincial Letters are
considered a classic. Blaise Pascal also wrote some other great works,
Ganganelli-Clement XIV abolished the Order entirely in 1773, and was
murdered as a result.
Correct; he was poisoned.
Order was similarly abolished 39 times from different kingdoms
throughout Europe. It doesn’t take a genius to figure out that something
was terribly wrong with this group!
Are all those people bigots? Are all those people brainwashed bigots and
fanatical Protestants who abolished the Jesuit Order?
You find the greatest
resistance to the Jesuits in Catholic countries, by Catholic monarchs.
And that’s why the Roman Catholic monarchs and nobility of today don’t
dare resist them. The Kennedys won’t touch them. The monarchs of Europe
won’t touch them. The Hapsburgs won’t touch them, because the Jesuits
have vindicated their power in the French Revolution and the Napoleonic
Wars—well, then they went to suppress the Jesuits again in Europe and
they were, for the most part, kicked-out of Europe in the 1800s. All the
nations of Europe banned them. Germany banned them in 1872. And so,
World War I and II, the second Thirty Years War, was pay-back for this.
And ever since then, nobody touches them.
abolished the Jesuits with a Papal Bull; the Jesuits call it a "brief".
It is not a brief; it is in the Library of the Bulls, and it is called
Dominic Ac Redemptor Nostor. That is the name of a bull. And when
he abolished them, he abolished them forever—that they were not to talk
about their abolition, that they were not to teach. He confiscated all
of their wealth and land and property. For the most part, the Dominicans
took it over, which is why the Dominicans had their penis cut off during
the French Revolution. That’s what the Jacobins did to them. It was
payback by the Jesuits: "You don’t dare take our property from us, boy.
And you don’t dare take Inquisition from us." Jacobins
killed nearly every Dominican in France.
Martin: Why was
the assassination of William of Orange so significant?
Williams of Orange was the father of religious liberty. William of
Orange is the man who gave the Jews the freedom to come to Amsterdam.
And the Jews called Amsterdam, "the new Jerusalem". William of Orange
was a Catholic to begin with. Remember when he was in the forest,
hunting with the king of France, and the king of France lay bare to him
their plans to destroy all the Protestants in Holland, William kept
silent. And that’s why he was called "William the taciturn" or "William
So, he harbored all of
this in his heart, and he went back to Holland determined that he would
deliver the Calvinists and the Protestants from this annihilation.
William went to Germany with his German wife, and he, according to
Motley in his The Dutch Republic, raised an army of Germans and
they did not succeed in liberating Holland. And so, it was the Dutch
themselves who joined William of Orange in an attempt to liberate the
country, which they ultimately did as the "wild beggars of the sea".
So, William was a
great inspiration. He delivered flight from the seige of the fanatical
Roman Catholic Spanish, lead by the Jesuits, when the Lord
providentially delivered and sent a strong wind over the dikes, and
flooded the whole area, and flooded the Spanish soldiers.
And then, after that
happened, He sent another strong West wind and blew the water back over
the dikes. This is a historical fact! Why don’t we hear this in history?
For the same reason we don’t hear when Louis XIV brought his army across
the river into Holland to kill all those Dutch, in 1672, right around
there, that the river, right where the army was crossing, thawed out,
and the whole French army went to the bottom of the river, as a result
of the prayers of those Protestants of Holland. We’re not taught that
The assassination of
William of Orange was probably the second most significant act of Jesuit
dominance, next to the murder of Coligny at St. Bartholomew’s Massacre.
Because it was first St. Bartholomew’s massacre, and then the murder of
William of Orange. And, of course, William of Orange was shot by a
Jesuit-controlled assassin, Balthazar Girard, in his own house. And the
last words of William, of course, were: "God be merciful to these poor
Martin: What is
the Royal Institute of International Affairs?
Royal Institute of International Affairs is the same as the American
Council on Foreign Relations (CFR). The Royal Institute runs England and
the British Empire, what was once the extension of the British, just as
the CFR runs our country. They’re sister organizations.
are they based?
based in London.
Martin: And who
is their head; do you know?
Phelps: I don’t
know right now. The John Birch Society wrote a lot about that, and they
did expose the CFR and the Royal Institute of International Affairs.
Allan Stang has written a lot about that.
was the "Gunpowder Plot" of 1605?
Gunpowder Plot of 1605 was the Jesuits attempt to destroy what William
Howitt—and Howitt was the great writer who wrote A Popular History Of
Priestcraft, 1835—he said it was a Jesuit attempt to destroy our
Great King Solomon, King James I, along with the entire Protestant
Parliament. Because remember, Elizabeth I had expelled the Jesuits from
her empire, and if they were ever caught they were to be drawn and
After she died, the
conspiracy went on there that went on with William Cecil. They named
Mary Queen of Scott’s son as the King of England, rather than
Elizabeth’s son, because Elizabeth had a son who was the Earl of South
Hampton, Wriothesley, and that was the son of Edward
Devere, who we know as William Shakespeare.
There was no William
Shakespeare. The man was Edward Devere. He ran the Globe Theater. He was
the Lord Great Chamberlain to Queen Elizabeth, and he secretly had a son
who was the Third Earl of South Hampton. He was the
rightful heir to the thrown, not King James VI of Scotland.
You can find all this
documented in two great works: the first is called Shakespeare
Identified and the author is Looney. The explosion of that book is
called This Star Of England, written by Carlton and Dorothy
Ogborn, in 1952, and it’s a 1200-page work, and in it they explain all
the plays of Shakespeare, and that they are, in the words of Hamlet: "A
brief abstract and chronicle of the times." Nothing but history.
And then there’s
another book, Wasn’t Shakespeare Someone Else?, written by Tweeny,
and in that book he evaluates the 150 sonnets. In those sonnets Edward
Devere put his name: Vere or Uvre or Vere—he puts his name in acrostics
throughout all the sonnets. And the last couple sonnets he puts his name
in double acrostics. It’s amazing, showing that he wrote the sonnets.
were the Jesuits so upset about the Edict of Nantes, and what was it’s
Phelps: Ok, the
Revocation of the Edict of Nantes—it can be spelled Nantes or Nantz.
Anyway, the Edict of Nantes was put forward by King Henry IV. King Henry
IV was a Roman Catholic, but he converted to Protestantism and he became
a Huguenot. But he was not allowed to take the throne of France until he
renounced his Protestantism. So, for the sake of the kingdom, he
renounced his Protestantism, and in 1610, I believe, issued forth the
Edict of Nantes.
The Edict of Nantes
guaranteed religious freedom to all the French. That included the
Protestant, Calvinist, Huguenots, which of course included those who
would have followed Admiral Coligny, who the Jesuits murdered with that
she-wolf, Catherine de Medici. With the Edict of Nantes we have
religious liberty in France. This cannot be. France is a cornerstone of
Jesuit power, so it cannot allow this to be in place. The Council of
Trent condemns it, because it’s freedom of conscience.
So, after they murder
Henry IV with Ravaillac, when they stabbed him through his heart,
according to Sully in his memoirs, they murdered Henry IV for this, and
also for attempting to reinforce the Dutch. They then, in 1685—when the
Beatles are singing about the "Sun King" in their "white" album, they’re
singing about Louis XIV. And that’s telling you that the Beatles are
Jesuit-controlled. The Sun King, Louis XIV who reigned, who rules over
France for, I believe, 60 years, he, because of his Jesuit confessor,
Pere La Chaise, revokes the Edict of Nantes, and with that, no more
religious freedom in France.
And then they sent
their French dragons out and beheaded and killed every Huguenot they
could find, driving 500,000 Frenchmen out of the country, the wealth of
France, the manhood of France, all left for Holland and England. That
destroyed France. From then on, France became a nothing nation.
The French Revolution
could never have happened had not the Revocation of the Edict of Nantes
taken place. Because now, there’s no Bible in France. And to this
day, the French have never published a French version of the Textus
Receptus. Number one, all French Bibles have been produced in
foreign countries, when they’ve been translated from the Greek Textus
Receptus into French; France has never done it. That
shows the Jesuit power over France to this day.
And the French have
probably been the most manly, the strongest, the most gracious, the most
determined in kicking the Jesuits out of their country. They’ve kicked
them out, to my knowledge, three times—and again, they come back, foment
wars, kill off the rulers, etc. Drive Eugene Sue into exile; he dies of
a broken heart. Drive Calvin into exile; he can never return to France.
All the great Frenchmen are driven into exile.
So we have, as
American patriots, we have a great camaraderie for the French. They
helped us in our American Revolution. And why did they help us? Because
they’ve been expelled from France. Why did Spain help us? Why did they
help finance our Revolution? The Jesuits had been expelled from Spain.
So payback came for Spain and France, for helping this heretic,
Protestant nation come into existence, with the Napoleonic Wars, when
they killed Louis XVI and drove the Bubons from the Spanish thrown. That
Martin: For 30
years of war, from 1618-1648, you state that the Jesuits, through
Ferdinand II, killed-off 10 million people. That’s quite a statement.
statement comes from Ridpath’s History Of The World, published in
1899. And that is his encyclopedia of his history of the world. That was
common knowledge in 1899. The 30 Years War was hell on Earth for Europe.
Two-thirds of Germany was brought back to Rome. It was leveled,
plundered, and destroyed.
Wallenstein and Tilly
were the fanatical Roman Catholic generals who raped, pillaged,
and plundered everything in their path. But the Lord raised up certain
great generals like Gustavus Adolphus from Sweden. He was called the
"Snow King" and he was the one who ultimately, he paved the way for the
victory of the 30 Years War.
But without that
Protestant victory of the 30 Years War, the peace of Westphalia,
which the Pope was not invited to, there would have been no modern era
as we know it today. According to any historian, the modern era begins
in 1648. That is when the 80 Year War in Holland ended with Spain. That
is when the 30 Years War ended with Ferdinand II and the Protestants of
Germany, and Sweden, and so-on.
1648 is the wonderful
year in which the Modern Era began, when inventors could go to Germany
and say: "Well, you know, maybe the Earth isn’t flat." And maybe
Leeuwenhoek could invent the microscope in Holland, and now, later on,
James Clerk Maxwell, who was a Bible-believing, Protestant
Presbyterian, he can write his treatise called Electricity And
Magnetism, the father of what we know today about electricity and
magnetism. Now, science can blossom and bloom. Now we can have
literature. Now we can have great writers, like Sir Walter Scott, who
writes great works like Ivanhoe and
Peveril Of The Peak. Now we can have Charles Dickens, another
Protestant, who writes A Tale Of Two Cities,
one of London and the other of Rome. We have great literature surfacing
as a result of the Modern Era.
But the Jesuits, in
their determination to destroy the Reformation and the Modern Era and
bring us back to the Dark Ages, seek to reverse the effects of the
Modern Era, and thus, what was brought about by the 30 Years War. And to
know the 30 Years War is to understand the second 30 Years War, which
started in 1914 and ended in 1945.
1639, the Jesuits were also expelled from Japan. Apparently the Jesuits
never forgot that.
never forgot it. For over 200 years they have been expelled. And
remember the words of Lincoln: "The Jesuits never forget nor forsake."
So, payback time was
coming for Japan. The Emperor had expelled them, so that dynasty was
targeted. Ultimately, the Emperor would be destroyed or his dynasty
would end. And so payback time was the mass fire-bombings by the
American Air Force, financed by the Jesuits, as the Jesuits own
Lockheed, Boeing, McDonald-Douglas, and Grumman, and they used their
B-29 to firebomb Japan to smithereens. You can get the fact that the
Jesuits control these aircraft companies from Avro Manhattan’s The
trying to get a little more current here, but some of this older stuff
is also so fascinating, I’m going back and forth here. Our readers are
just going to have to be a little flexible in their reading. (laughter)
Martin: In 1649
there was the Irish Massacre. What was it, and let’s discuss the hatred
between the Protestants and Catholics in Ireland, as a result of the
Phelps: Ok. Of
course, we believe in freedom of speech, freedom of conscience, freedom
of the press. That is an outgrowth of Protestantism, because all
Protestants were defending their right to believe the Bible in
the face of Rome’s expectations to believe the priests and the decrees
of the Popes.
Many of the Irish were
born-again. They came to know the Lord. Much preaching was done up
there. In fact, Patrick, of St. Patrick’s Day, was no Catholic. He was a
Protestant. And so, he was a great Protestant preacher of Ireland, and
many, many Irish came to know the Lord. And their point of location was
primarily in the North, in Northern Ireland, which today is Ulster,
Well, the Jesuits, in
fulfilling their Bloody Oath that we are making and waging relentless
war on all Protestants, and all political liberals, they hatched-out the
plot to kill all the Irish Protestants in Ireland with the O’Neil
family. And I wonder if that O’Neil family was related to Tip O’Neil?
In 1641, the massacre
began, carried out by Roman Catholic nobles and the mobs in Ireland.
When they started that massacre, it continued from 1641 to 1649. The
massacre ended when they killed 150,000, but they still taught the
Catholic children to kill the Protestant children. So, Irish Protestants
were being massacred, enmasse, for 8 years.
This is NEVER told
whenever anybody is ever talking about Oliver Cromwell, when Cromwell
came up with his Puritan Army and ended that, when he took
Drogheda, and killed every living thing in Drogheda—men, women,
children, animal, everything.
Ones say: "Oh, the
beast Oliver Cromwell. Look what he did to Drogheda!" What about those
beasts killing those Irish Protestants for 8 years, bashing out the
brains of the little babies, smashing them up against the walls like
they did, led by the priests?
This was just like
they did in Croatia with the Serbs in World War II, when they gouged-out
the eyes of all the Serbians, where one particular priest had 23 kilos
worth of eyes. They were doing the same thing to the Irish Protestants.
So, when Cromwell came
up, and it was vengeance for the Irish Massacre, and the Irish Massacre
was NOT started by the Protestants, it was started by the Jesuits
according to Fox’s Book Of Martyrs. And you can find the whole
narration there, which was a classic that all Englishmen used to read
with the King James Bible.
Martin: Do you
believe that Great Britain is truly Protestant-controlled,
Jewish-controlled, or Jesuit-controlled?
let’s go back. To understand today we have to go back to the Napoleonic
When Napoleon came to
power, he was brought to power in Corsica. When the Jesuits were
suppressed, one of their main outposts during their suppression was the
Isle of Corsica. The Jesuits, remember, had finished the High Rites of
Freemasonry with Frederick the Great, and then used their French
Freemason Napoleon to execute their vengeance.
However, the Jesuits
were also protected during their suppression in England. A very wealthy
landowner—and you can find this in Ridpath’s History Of The World—gave
his wonderful, beautiful estate Stonyhurst to the Jesuit
Order. And from then on, the Jesuits received protection by King George
III, and you will find that in Mitchell’s The Jesuits. Mitchell
is an English historian.
Ok, so the Jesuits are
now protected by King George III. Well, they’re going to uphold his
throne. The Jesuits use the English army and navy in the resistance of
Napoleon, as both sides are controlled, so that the Jesuits can control
The end result is
that, after Napoleon accomplishes everything that the Jesuits want him
to do—the expulsion of the Knights of Malta, the driving of the Roman
Catholics from their throne, imprisoning the Pope for 5 years,
etc.—Napoleon is then ordered to abandon his army in the snows of
Russia, killing all of those French and German patriots, so that there
are very few patriots left in Europe to resist the tyranny coming in
France with Louis XVIII, who the Jesuits will put back on the throne.
Louis XVIII was in
exile, in England, in King George’s own parlor, waiting for the end of
the Napoleonic Wars. So, the Jesuits put Louis XVIII back on the throne.
He readmitted the Jesuits, started the Inquisition, just like they did
with Ferdinand VII when they restored him to power in Spain after the
And where do these
monarchs get their protection? From King George III. King George was
used by the Jesuits to restore their power in Europe, after the
Napoleonic Wars, after they punished the Pope and the monarchs.
So, it’s been, really,
from 1795, right around there, that the Jesuits have controlled England.
They’ve controlled the Knights, they’ve controlled the King. All
throughout the 18th century, now, England will never go to war with
France again. England will side with the French during the Crimean War.
England will be on the side of the French during World Wars I & II.
England and France are together, both controlled by the Jesuits—even
though France is predominantly a Catholic country, and when England was,
at least on it’s face, a Protestant country. Why should both be working
together, both having the same foreign policy. Why? Because the Jesuits
control both countries.
When Rothschild sent that note, via Roost, into London,
saying that Napolean had won the Battle of Waterloo, that’s when the
stocks plummeted, and all the Jesuits bought all the stocks up, there in
London, and got control of the Bank of England. The Jesuits then made
London their commercial center of the world, and Rome their religious
center, aiming that one day Jerusalem would be both.
So now the Jesuits are
in control of England. After the Napoleonic Wars, we have the Congress
of Vienna in 1815, and guess who’s there? All the representatives of
King George. England is represented at the Congress of Vienna, the
settlement after the Napoleonic Wars. If England was truly Protestant,
they would have never went there. Now the Jesuits are in control of
England throughout the 1800s, and they use the British Empire to further
the power of the Pope. England has been under Rome’s control, the Pope’s
control, since, at the very latest, 1850. And I say since 1795.
talk about Elizabeth II.
Elizabeth II is a wicked, evil queen. She is the head of the Knights of
Malta in England. She curtsies to the Lord Mayor in Old London, and she
goes and visits the Jesuits of Stonyhurst and kisses their derrières.
She has complete allegiance to the Jesuits of Stonyhurst, and will do
anything they tell her to do, or they’ll get rid of her just like they
got rid of all the rest of the monarchs in Europe.
Martin: So you
see her as a pawn.
just a pawn, sure. She’s nothing. Remember, White men rule the world.
Evil, White, sodomite, homosexual men rule the world, and these are the
High Jesuits, with their High Knights of Malta and High Freemasons, they
rule. And these women who are involved are just pawns in their game,
like the queen, the queen of Holland, just to give the appearance that
these nations have a sovereign monarch, when in fact, they’re just
England has done some
awful, terrible things, but all of the things that they have done
increase and benefit the Jesuit Order. They never resisted Napoleon III.
Napoleon III was a fanatical Roman Catholic Freemason, subject to the
Jesuits, who was the King of France for 18 years, second Empire. England
never resisted him. They fought with him in the Crimean War. And
Napoleon III dedicated all of his ships to the Virgin Mary. England has
been on the side of the Jesuits since 1815, no later. So, that means
that the British Secret Service is totally working for Rome, all
throughout the 1800s.
Martin: How did
the Jesuits regain control of the Vatican in 1814?
Remember that they were in control of Napoleon. A Jesuit by the name of
Abbie Sieyes—you can find him, again, in Ridpath’s History Of The
World—Abbie Sieyes was a Jesuit-trained individual, and I believe he
was a Jesuit. He was on the Directory, and he was also on the Consulate;
he was the second counsel. Napoleon was the first; he was the second. He
was the advisor and director of Napoleon. Abbie Sieyes, being the Jesuit
that he was, ordered Napoleon to imprison the Pope for 5 years, and he
did! So, the Pope was in prison for 5 years until 1814, when he restored
the Jesuit Order. The Pope, prior to that, was killed. They brought him
over the mountains of the Alps, and he died through that debacle.
The Jesuits thoroughly
humiliated the papacy. They used their French soldiers to overturn St.
Peter’s chair, and they found, written in Arabic: "There is no other God
but Allah, and Mohammed is his prophet." And THAT is what is under St.
Peter’s chair today. That was stolen from some kalif
during the Crusades.
So, they completely
intimidated the Pope and showed their power. The Pope then restored them
with a Papal Bull, calling upon the vengeance of the Apostles Peter and
Paul, blah, blah, blah, for anyone who would ever suppress the Jesuit
Order ever again. When the Jesuits were "reinstalled" in all their
power, that’s when they were in control of the Pope, and from then on
they have been.
Any Pope who resists
them gets punished or murdered. And all the Popes know it. When Pius IX
wanted a liberal constitution for the Italian people in 1849, all of the
Italians were delighted. Here is a liberal Pope; he’s going to give us
constitutional rights; we’re going to have a constitution.
The Jesuits raised up
a revolution with Garibaldi and their Freemasons, and
drove Pius IX from his throne. He had to stay in Gaeta for
about a year. When he returned to Rome, under the protection of Napoleon
III’s French army—actually, it was the republic’s army that would later
be his "army of the empire"—but they returned with a French army,
protecting the Pope, he became the most fanatical absolutist, pursuant
to the wishes of the Jesuits.
So, Piux IX was
punished. But the Popes who don’t obey, like, what was it, In God’s
Name, the Pope who was murdered after 33 days, when he didn’t go
along with the Jesuit Order, they ended his life.
Eric is here referring to the very well researched and deeply insightful
1984 Bantam Books gem (that’s very hard to find, for "some" reason!) by
David A. Yallop, called In God’s Name, which details the author’s
thorough investigation into the murder of Pope John Paul I the night of
September 28-29, 1978 after John Paul had been digging into the massive
web of corruption surrounding the Vatican Bank. For all of you who look
for clues, note well the choosing of day 33 since his election for the
execution of the murder.]
When you steal from
the Vatican, like the Cardinal did at the PII Lodge, they killed him (Kalvi),
and they hanged the other guy, beginning with the admiralty
jurisdiction, at their first bridge of the sea. So they have their
assassins everywhere to carry out orders. They are machines. They are
the perfect "Manchurian Candidates" and they will kill popes, cardinals,
presidents, kings, and kaisers, to maintain Jesuit power. They are
utterly ruthless—just like they said they would be in the Protocols:
"We are merciless."
Martin: As you
look around the world today, who do you see opposing them?
interesting. I have a friend who makes quite a few trips to Haiti. I
told her about the Jesuits. She got to questioning a few people, and she
found that Papa Doc had expelled the Jesuits from Haiti.
right. Isn’t it interesting, his son was also driven from power and the
guy put in his place, I believe it was Aristide, is a member of the
Council on Foreign Relations and a complete pawn of the Pope and the
Jesuit Order—for which reason, when those Haitians wanted to drive
Aristide from his power, this filthy, Jesuit-controlled government in
Washington put an embargo against Haiti, wrecking the country. See how
the U.S. government uses its military, political, and financial power to
maintain the temporal power of the Pope? And that’s not only in Haiti;
it’s everywhere. Russia is another example.
you see, coming up soon in Israel, some of these powers coming
head-to-head over the rebuilding of Solomon’s Temple? Don’t you see some
conflicts with the powers that be?
powers are you talking about?
Martin: I don’t
know; there seem to be so many involved.
first have to remember the creation of the nation of Israel. World War I
prepared the land for the people. World War II prepared the people for
the land. World War III, the battle of Armageddon, will "prepare the
people for their messiah"—with national repentance and realizing that
"Jesus, the messiah, is the savior and will deliver them".
The present government
of Israel was set up by the High Masonic Rothschild-controlled Jews, and
Rothschild has had an alliance with the Jesuit General since 1876, with
Adam Weishaupt. This is the very same Rothschild powers who betrayed the
Jews into the hands of the Nazis, killing many Jews all throughout
Europe, betraying their own Jewish people. These are the very same
powers who run the nation of Israel today.
I read a very
interesting paragraph by Mark Lane in his book Plausible Denial
when he tells about a Jew in Israel who wrote about certain criminal
Jews, involved with the Nazis, who are now with the Mossad, something
along those lines. The man who wrote the article was gunned-down in
front of his home.
So, Rome controls the
Israeli government. It controls the Israeli government through the
Who trained the Mossad?
We find that fact in
Loftus’ work The Secret War Against The Jews in most telling,
So what do we have? We
have high-level treason and betrayal of the Jewish race; that is there
in Israel today, by their own leaders, who are loyal to Rome and the
Jesuit Order. And to show this, we have a great big Rockefeller edifice
in Jerusalem; we have an ophthalmology center in Jerusalem run by the
Knights of Malta. There’s nothing but Knights of Malta, high-level
Freemasonry, and the Jesuit Order running all of Israel.
So what’s going to
happen, I believe, with the Dome of the Rock is, that has got to be
removed—somehow, someway. It’s on the Temple site; it has to be removed.
If I was the Jesuit
General, I would make— somehow, someway—American bombers do it. Because
I want to create universal hatred for this nation of the United States,
because in the United States there are more Protestants and more Jews
than any country in the world, and "we’ve" got to kill all those people.
So what better way than to create a Jihad, a Moslem fanatical attack
against the United States, coupled with a Chinese invasion from the
East. That’s what I think is going to happen.
The Jews are not going
to destroy that Temple site because, if they do, Rome will destroy their
efforts of rebuilding the Temple.
Because, if Moslems
control all of Jerusalem, that Temple will never be rebuilt. It has to
stay in Jewish hands—because the Jews, and rightfully so, need their own
homeland. They’re entitled to the nation. And they haven’t had their own
Temple of worship. They are rightfully entitled to that.
But what they don’t
know is that they are being used by the Jesuits to rebuild their own
Temple, that they would love to have rebuilt, for the Pope, so he can
sit there and be the man of sin, the Anti-Christ of the Book of
Daniel, Chapter 9. That’s what I see coming for Israel.
The assassination of
Rabin? He wanted to give away too much. He probably wanted to give away
some of Jerusalem. The Jesuits will never allow that. So, his bodyguards
just step aside and the Mossad kills him. And nothing more is ever
General’s—international intelligence community carries out all
high-level assassinations, kills anybody who’s against their program.
And Cromwell knew this, back in his day, and that’s why he protected
himself—160 of his finest "ironsides" as his bodyguards, and no one got
So anybody who’s going
to resist the Jesuit Order has to be doing it as a matter of a
"religious" conviction—being protected by God and good men who are loyal
to Him. If it’s simply political, with a hired Secret Service, you can
go back to St. Patrick’s Cathedral in New York. Why is that so
significant? You talk about the American Pope. Again, that person is?
what is his role in the United States?
remember first that this title "American Pope" was gotten from Conney’s
work. John Conney wrote The American Pope, I believe in 1988, so
a lot of this information is from that document.
The American Pope is
the Cardinal of New York. He is the most powerful Cardinal in the United
States. He is what’s called "the military vicar".
The military vicar is
in command of all of the military orders within the United States, they
being the Knights of Malta and the Knights of Columbus. He is also in
command, and privately, of "the Commission" because Cardinal Spellman
was an intimate of Joe Kennedy, and Joe Kennedy was an intimate of Frank
We also see that it
was Cardinal Spellman who enabled "Lucky" Luciano to be released from
the prison in New York, to return to Italy in 1946. And this was because
of the Luciano Project that I mentioned in my book. But Lucky Luciano,
his Mafia on the East Coast, worked in conjunction with the U.S. Navy,
supposedly to protect the Eastern seaboard from German U-boat attack.
So, as payback?
Cardinal Spellman releases Lucky Luciano—that filthy, wicked, evil,
heartless spiritual bastard, who compelled young girls into
prostitution, probably one of the cruelest things any man could do. He
is released and sent back to Rome.
When the Kennedy
assassination comes up, the Cardinal needs a favor. After all, he’s
released Luciano. So now the Mafia gets to participate: Jack Ruby,
Carlos Marcello, Santos Trafficante, all the High Dons participate. Why?
Because that Cardinal in New York controls the Commission.
And that Commission,
you know what it controls? All of the trucking, all the supermarkets,
it’s power is beyond our wildest imagination, second only to the Knights
of Malta. And, of course, they all control the Federal Reserve Bank.
The Cardinal controls
the Federal Reserve Bank through the Council on Foreign Relations. The
Council on Foreign Relations belongs to the Cardinal.
Spellman was not a member of it, during his day, but two of the most
powerful members were Knights of Malta: Henry Luce and J. Peter Grace,
and also William F. Buckley, to this day. William F. Buckley is indeed
one of my enemies, because I name him, and he is a powerful
multi-billionaire who participated in the Kennedy assassination, just
like Iacocca, another Knight. Both of those men are subject to Cardinal
O’Connor and will do ANYTHING he says.
Martin: Do you
know who is head of the Knights of Malta, now?
his name is Flynn. He took over when Grace died in ’93. Flynn is head of
the American branch. The head of the worldwide branch, the international
Knights of Malta, is Andrew Bertie; he’s an Englishman. And you can find
that in the National Catholic Reporter, when you go after their
various articles on the Knights of Malta.
Martin: Do the
Knights of Malta actually meet, actually hold meetings with the Jesuits?
sure. Remember that Alexander Haig is a powerful Knight of
Malta. His brother is a Jesuit.
So, sure they have
meetings. The High Knights of Malta, who meet in their palace on Aventin
Hill, in Rome, of course, meet with the Jesuit General, and so on. And
Count von Hoensbroech, who was a German Noble who became a Jesuit for 14
years—he wrote a two-volume work called Fourteen Years A Jesuit.
His father was a Knight of Malta. Yes, the Jesuits work in conjunction
and have regular meetings with the Knights of Malta.
The Knights control
the money. The Knights control the banks. They control the Bank of
Canada, Federal Reserve Bank, Bank of England; they control the banking.
They were the ones who were behind the sinking of the Titanic, with the
creation of the White Star Line, J.P. Morgan and others.
Greenspan, then, would be?
Greenspan is a Jew, probably a Freemason, because he is the leader of
the Temple called the "Federal Reserve Bank" and they always put Jews in
the forefront—so that they can blame all of what they do on the Jewish
race in this country, to create an anti-Semitism everywhere, just like
Charles Coughlin, the radio Jesuit priest of the ’30s did.
Warburg, and all those Jews need to be publicly rebuked, because they
are creating the mass genocide of the Jewish race in the United States.
The Jews are being blamed right now for the foreign policy in Bosnia.
Madeline Albright—she’s a Jew—they’re blaming her for what’s going on in
Serbia. I’ve got a good Serbian friend who blames her. I said she’s just
a pawn of the Jesuit CFR. Don’t blame the Jewish people. It’s these
Jewish "pawns" who are loyal to the Pope and the Jesuits who are doing
Jesuits are the Great Zionists. They control all of the historical High
Zionists—Theodor Herzl, David Ben-Gurion, Golda Meir. Zionism is a
Masonic term, coined by the Jesuits. They are the rulers; they are the
Protocols; they are the Elders of Zion. So the Zionists are,
indeed, evil and wicked; but they are controlled by Rome. The Jews are
not all Zionists.
I remember when I went
to Jerusalem and Israel in 1976, and a lady said to this particular man
that I had met: "You’re more of a Zionist than we are!" And I thought:
"What does that mean? I don’t understand that."
I only later
understood why Yasser Arafat says he doesn’t hate the Jews; he can’t
stand the Zionists. And I’m thinking: "What’s the difference?" I, later,
learned that there is a great difference between those Zionists and the
other Jews. The Orthodox Jews can’t stand the Zionists.
So what’s the
difference? The Zionists are socialist communists, controlled by Rome.
They are atheists, just like the Jesuits, although they’re being used to
rebuild the nation of Israel. They are the enemies of the Jewish people,
There’s no conflict
going on in the Middle East. There’s no conflict going on with the Arab
nations. All of the Arab nations are under the command of Masonic kings
or iotollas. Saddam Hussein is no enemy of George Bush; they’re both
brothers, brothers of the lodge. That whole thing was set up to kill off
a whole bunch of Arabs for the protection of the Zionist state of
Bush and Saddam were business partners. We’ve covered that in recent
past issues of our newspaper.
That’s why they never killed Saddam. They could have easily killed him.
The CIA can kill anybody they want to. They could have easily killed
Saddam and got out. They could use their own Arab agents in there.
Saddam was a very important tool.
is, sure. They keep the Arab peoples and nations at bay by controlling
them through their leaders. Or, when they start to get out of control in
their Moslem fanaticism, they then foment a war and kill off a whole
bunch of them. Make sense?
was a statement you made in your book about the Jesuits controlling the
Nation of Islam, and that was almost a surprising statement to read. I
would think that someone like Louis Farrakhan would be pretty adamant.
he would hate me for that one. Well, let’s think a little bit here:
Chicago is ruled by
the Archbishop of Chicago, a Cardinal. It was Cody; I don’t know who it
is now. Do you think anything goes down in Chicago without the
Where was the Nation
of Islam founded? Chicago.
Where is Louis
Farrakhan’s—that murderer’s—mansion? Chicago. He lives like a king.
What does he hand out?
He hands out the Protocols Of The Learned Elders Of Zion to all
of deluded Black Nation of Islam people, so that they can hate the Jews,
just like the Klu Klux Klan.
That’s right. Those
three little tidbits, right there, prove that the Nation of Islam is
totally under Jesuit control. They are going to be used to foment
anarchy and agitation, because they have an army called "the fruit of
Islam", and they have millions of rounds stored in all the major
cities—guns stored everywhere, so that they can start the race
war. And when that happens, you see, then the brothers in Washington can
implement Martial Law, suspend the Constitution, and now the
Jesuits have what they want.
So, they use these
Blacks in the North, who hate the White people, for their own
destruction, for the destruction of the Black people themselves. And the
Nation of Islam is part of that.
When I was in the Air
Force, and in jail for about 10-15 days, about 10 years ago, the Nation
of Islam was paramount, or tried to be paramount, there. All the Blacks
in jail become Moslems. It’s a "hate the White man" religion. Every
White man is a White, blue-eyed Devil. And they’re playing—the Zodiac
killer, back in California many years ago, all Moslems. So it’s a "hate
the White man" religion, designed to foment agitation and unrest.
Martin Lucifer King
was intimately involved with them. The only problem is, Malcolm X got on
to it. He realized he was being used and he separated from it. Then he
ceased to be an agitator.
X was way ahead of his time.
Malcolm X was a good guy.
Martin: Yes, he
X, even though he was used by the Jesuits, because he hated the King
James Bible, he was a great agitator. When he went to Mecca, he
Martin: Yes, he
when he came back, he stopped being an agitator. He stopped hating the
White man. He started to set up the African-American Movement. And as a
result, he was assassinated by the high leaders of the FBI and the
Nation of Islam.
And what do they both
have in common? High-level Shriner Freemasonry.
And so, we have the
Masons in control of the Nation of Islam and the Klu Klux Klan—one
agitating Blacks, and the other agitating Whites, to the glory of the
Jesuit Order. The other Civil Rights Movement had the Jesuits behind
that—with LaFarge. Jesuit LeFarge was a great mover and shaker of the
Civil Rights Movements. And that agitation resulted in amalgamation,
race-mixing, the destruction of a White race and a Black race, producing
a nation of hybrids that cannot maintain free government.
That is what they
proposed to do in the first Reconstruction, but it failed; so they
succeeded in the second Reconstruction in the ’60s. The Jesuits are
masters of the races. They know their strengths and their weaknesses.
The only race who
successfully resisted the Jesuit Order is the White, Anglo-Celtic, Saxon
race, with a Bible in one hand and a gun in the other. And so
they’ve got to take the Bible away, they’ve got to take the gun
away, and they’ve got to destroy that race. And that’s what they are
essentially doing here. I know that’s a racist statement, but I’m sorry,
it’s just the way it is. That’s history, and that’s what they’re doing.
relationship between Communism and Freemasonry. Where do the Jesuits fit
into Communism and Freemasonry?
first of all, look at the relationship of Jesuitism to Communism. The
Jesuits perfected the tenets of Communism on their reductions in
Paraguay, for 150 years, from 1600-1750.
Martin: What is
reduction is a commune. In Israel they would call it a kibbutz. In
Joseph Stalin’s Russia they would call it a commune. In New York they
call it a village. In France, Paris, they called it a commune. It’s
communal living where everybody is equal in their finances, in the
labors; you have no great, no small, no rich, no poor—everybody is
small, and everybody is poor, and everybody is controlled by a dictator.
That’s the essence of Communism.
The Jesuits, on the
reductions in Paraguay, which were the communes, had a central bank, and
it was "each according to their ability and each according to their
need". And so, the Guarani Indians that were the subjects—and there were
some 200,000 of these South American Indian natives who were slaves of
the Jesuits, putting their goods into world commerce and trade. They
were living under the tenets of Communism, perfected by the Jesuits, as
outlined in Plato’s Republic and Sir Thomas Moore’s Utopia.
The Jesuits perfected it on their reductions.
With that, they then
introduced Communism in 1848 through Karl Marx. They tutored him in the
British Museum, according to Alberto Rivera, an ex-Jesuit.
So Marx, the Jewish
Freemason, was to be the one to put forward this Communism for the
world, so that Communism would look like a Jewish brain-child, so that
Communism could be blamed on the Jews. Well, what’s not told is that the
Jews involved in the implementing of Communism were Masonic Jews. Karl
Marx was a 33rd-degree Freemason, a worshipper of Lucifer, whose father
wanted nothing to do with him, because his father was a Baptist
controlled by the Jesuits, implemented Communism in Russia. Lenin, the
half-Jew, was a Freemason. That civil war that took place from
1917-1922, for 5 years, was given the appearance that it was primarily
Yiddish. I mean, they’re on the streets of Russia talking Yiddish; they
had Yiddish signs; and it was wanted to give the impression to the world
that this revolution was of Jewish origin.
For 10 years after the
revolution, the Jews faired very well, but in 1922, Joseph Stalin, that
great Jew-hater, who was educated by Jesuits in Georgia—which was a
country south of Russia and, therefore, the Emperor’s banning of the
Jesuits from Russia, his Ukase, did not reach to Georgia. So the
Jesuits stayed in Georgia, trained Joseph Stalin, brought him in after
the Revolution, and made him Secretary of the Communist Party in 1922,
until he died in 1953.
The Jesuits used
Freemasonry and, of course, Stalin was also a brother Freemason. They
used Freemasonry to implement Communism in Russia, and from there,
China, and from there, throughout the world.
When Germany had their
revolution after World War I, their Communist revolution—remember, they
requested an armistice—they had never been beaten on the field of
The Germans were
foisted into that war; they never started World War I. It was started by
France and Russia and England, for the purpose of destroying Germany,
because Germany had expelled the Jesuits. During that war, the Germans
requested an armistice to stop this Communist revolution in Germany.
And who lead the
revolution? The German Freemasons.
According to the
Kaiser, in his memoirs, it was German Freemasonry that got him off his
throne and deposed him. He had to go into exile in Holland. He wrote his
memoirs in 1935.
So the relationship
between Jesuitism, Communism and Freemasonry we see evolving and
expanding from the 1600s to the ultimate achievement in the Bolshevik
In my book, I parallel
the French Revolution and the Bolshevik Revolution, and they are
identical. It was French Freemasonry that caused the French Revolution
and the Jacobins, and it was the Freemasons in Russia, with Bolsheviks,
who caused the Russian Revolution, with their Bolsheviks, leading and
ending in Joseph Stalin. In France, it ended with Napoleon; in Russia,
it ended with Stalin. And so, that’s the relationship there.
Martin: Why was
Eugene Sue so significant?
Sue wrote his masterpiece The Wandering Jew, and in that
masterpiece he weaves a fantastic story from India to England to France,
of the power of the Jesuit Order and their attempt to destroy the
Rennepont family, a French Huguenot Protestant family, and acquire a
fortune that’s due to be inherited by the members of that family on a
certain day, at a certain time, in a certain year.
Well, that fortune is
held, in trust, by a Jew, for which reason the book is named The
Wandering Jew. It tells of the power of the Jesuit Order in that
book, and how the Jesuits mercilessly killed all these members of the
Rennepont family so they could not inherit their fortune.
The only one, I
believe, they didn’t kill was a priest, whose name was Gabriel, who was
a decent and a righteous Catholic priest who repudiated the Jesuit
Order. He ordered the Jew to burn all the securities, that totaled
something like $212 million, that would have rightfully been this French
So, the Jesuits didn’t
get it, nor did the French family get it. It’s written with such drama
and feeling that you cannot put this book down. It was translated into
many different languages. As a result, the French, and other nations,
had their French Revolution, the second French Revolution of 1848. But
because it was not lead by Godly men, it benefited the Jesuits.
Whenever you have a
revolution led by unGodly men, it’s just like a man who’s on a horse,
trying to be pushed off the horse, and as he’s pushed off, another
dictator takes his place. That’s exactly what happened in France, and
Italy, and the nations who were involved in that second French
But Eugene Sue had
motivated the people of France to expel the Jesuits, and they were
finally expelled in 1880 by a French Freemason, in the 3rd Republic,
Leon Gambetta. So, they’re all Freemasons who resist them, but they pay
with their lives, like Garfield, like Gambetta, Roosevelt, Franklin D.
Roosevelt. Roosevelt really didn’t resist them; he just was killed by
I’m jumping around.
was Operation Mongoose?
Operation Mongoose was purely "black ops" in the words of Fletcher
Prouty. Of course, Fletcher Prouty I consider the authority on what
Operation Mongoose was. Operation Mongoose was to "give the appearance"
of resistance to Castro’s government by attacking Cuba but, in effect,
solidified his reign there. That’s what it ultimately produced. And
that’s what the Knights and the CIA ultimately wanted. Ok?
The agreement that
Kennedy made over the Cuban missile crisis in 1962—first of all, there
was no missile crisis. There’s no such thing as nuclear war. There’s no
such thing as a nuclear attack. That’s all a hoax. It’s just as much a
hoax as going and landing on the Moon. It’s a hoax.
Nuclear war, that
fear, was the basis for the Cuban missile crisis. And out of that hoax,
Kennedy strikes a secret deal with Khrushchev that, if you keep the
missiles out of Cuba, we won’t bother Castro anymore. Well, that’s what
the Jesuits wanted anyway. They wanted to solidify Castro in power.
So that whole
theatrical performance solidified Castro’s power in Cuba. And the
question is: Why would the Jesuits create this fanatical power in Cuba,
run down the Cuban people, put them in poverty, imprison them at random,
create a living hell down there, drive out the Mafia—the Mafia could no
longer have their casinos in Havana?
Why would the Mafia
give up their casinos? For the international drug trade to be developing
out of Vietnam.
Therefore, if the
Mafia is leaving, and we don’t have a bunch of American tourists going
down to Cuba anymore, and Cuba is really a secret country—the Bible
is not allowed there, missionaries are not allowed in, obviously under
Jesuit control, Castro was trained by Jesuits—what’s the purpose of Cuba
It’s purpose is as
a landing base for foreign invasion. They have hundreds of vehicles,
underground, in underground caves there, ready for a massive invasion to
the East Coast, primarily the South. Because the last of the Protestants
in this country are in the South.
Cuba will always be
under a dictator and will never go back to freedom, because it is to be
a landing base. And you know what? It could very well be a landing base
for a Jihad that the Moslems will foment against us, because they’ll
come right across from Africa to Cuba, get reinforced, and then go
landing into Florida, with all their 5th-Column Cubans in Florida and
Miami right now. Sounds wild, but—.
a sobering thought.
Phelps: Yes, it
is. Sounds wild, but I’m telling you, all the geography is in place.
However, they can’t pull this all off until they get your guns. So
that’s why they’re constantly creating these gun issues—people shooting
people, the Columbine High School bit—to justify the confiscation of all
the guns. And when that happens, then they can do what they want to do.
are a lot of strong Americans out there.
only problem is this: they’re not united and they can’t be lead.
Americans are leaderless because they do not follow. They all think
their opinions are equal, and they’re not. I would follow General Patton
anywhere. I wouldn’t question an order of his. We don’t have men like
that today, for the most part, because we don’t have leaders like that
Martin: I found
your account of Patton’s assassination fascinating, also your speaking
of the Jesuits’ poisoning of him.
member of the OSS came out in the Spotlight [newspaper]
and said that. His name was Zapata, that agent. He said he was given a
contract on Patton for $10,000. He didn’t kill him, but he knows the guy
who did. So, Patton was murdered, and General Vlasov was murdered, and
both of them hated the Jesuits’ "Grand Inquisitor", Joseph Stalin. They
would have united together to eradicate Russia of that dictator, but the
Jesuits would not have it because Russia is theirs. They must control
the Orthodox Church to bring it back to Rome. That’s why they got rid of
Patton’s take-out was ordered by "Wild" Bill Donovan? Did I read that?
right. Wild Bill Donovan was the head of the OSS at the time. And if you
get Anthony K. Brown’s The Last Hero, it’s on Wild Bill Donovan.
He is in the Vatican at the end of his life, in a picture, walking in
the Vatican to receive one of the highest medals from the Pope, for a
"lifetime" of intelligence service to the Vatican. That is in The
Last Hero and the picture is mesmerizing. I want to put it in my
The OSS is nothing but
an arm of the CIA and the Vatican, and that’s why they took out Kenendy.
They kill all the generals who don’t "play ball".
talk about the CIA and the FBI some more. What can you tell me about
their relationship to Count von Kolvenbach?
based upon the past, if the CIA and the FBI carried out the
assassination under Spellman, and Janseens was the Jesuit General then,
the same power structure is in place. So, von Kolvenbach, through his
Knights of Malta and Jesuits, control the FBI and CIA. And his liason of
control is now Cardinal O’Connor in New York.
time ago, with Gunther Russbacher and others, there was talk about a
split in the CIA, of different factions. Some even say there is a third
faction in the CIA that has split off. What’s your opinion about
factional divisions within the CIA?
Phelps: I think
it’s true. I know that Angelton was the mole. Angelton was the one who
betrayed all those CIA agents in Russia, in which the vast majority of
them were killed, when he gave all that information to that KGB kingpin
on a farm in New York, in a van, stuffed with all the highest, top
secret CIA documents. Ok?
Colby comes along as
the Director of the CIA—I know his brother, he lives nearby me—Colby
comes along as the Director of the CIA and what does he do? He fires
Angelton. Bad news for Colby.
filled him up with lead. Eric Timm, he was also against Angleton; he was
history. That’s all told in Anthony K. Brown’s work Treason In The
Blood. There’s a whole little chapter on Eric Timm and some of the
other guys in the CIA who were against Angelton. They all died. So
there’s a faction in the CIA that knows that something is rotten in
Denmark, and they don’t quite know what it is. Hopefully, they’ll read
my book and see that the CIA is just an arm of the Jesuit Order and
Knights of Malta, carrying out the Council of Trent and the Pope’s
temple power, and will REVOLT, and start to tell the truth themselves.
It’s the same way in
the FBI. My father lectured at the FBI Academy. He wanted to be in the
FBI, but his parents were Communists, so he was not let in by J. Edgar
Hoover. But the FBI has low-level agents who wonder just what’s going
on. A lot of them didn’t approve of what happened in Waco.
They need to come
out and tell the truth. This whole "house of cards"—and that’s what it
is, this is not an undefeatable, invincible monster—it’s a house of
cards; it plays on FEAR. If men would tell the truth, and come out and
tell what they know, and not be afraid, this whole house of cards would
crumble. That’s what they need to do.
Martin: Who is
Dulles is the son of John Foster Dulles, Secretary of State, I
believe, under Eisenhower. Avery Dulles is a Jesuit, and he was the
nephew of the head of the CIA during the Kennedy assassination, who was
Allan Dulles. And Allan Dulles was a Freemason, also called "the
gentleman spy" in the book The Gentleman Spy.
was Angelton’s role in the Kennedy assassination?
Angelton was the one who was to "investigate" it on the part of the CIA.
Angelton also, I
believe, was liaison to the Warren Commission—no, that was Dulles. But
Angelton and Dulles were working together on that, because
Angelton was the Chief of Counter-Intelligence and he
manned the Vatican Desk, and he manned the Israeli Desk.
See how they’re
maintaining the Zionists in power, with the Israeli Desk? So, they saved
Israel’s hide in the ’73 war, because Kissinger almost lost it for them.
Alexander Haig gave them, the Israelis, those anti-tank
missiles, and got them in their hands before the Egyptians got into
Israel and disabled them. That was Alexander Haig, Knight of Malta, for
which reason he was also the Supreme Allied Commander for NATO, promoted
over 260 of his peers.
Martin: Do you
know anything about Haig’s statement "I’m in charge now!" Do you
Phelps: Yeah, I
do. I don’t know all of the implications, but I’m sure it fits in with
him being, in fact, in charge in the Nixon White House.
Martin: Ok, I
want to go back to the Kennedy assassination, and I’m going to just
mention some names: Clay Shaw, Jim Garrison, J. Peter Grace, Henry Luce,
E. Howard Hunt, John McCone. Why are they so important to this story?
Phelps: Give me
one and we’ll start with one.
start with Clay Shaw.
Shaw was a Knight of Malta. He was the head of the international trade
mart in New Orleans. Roman Catholic, homosexual, multi-millionaire,
lived lavishly, etc. Clay Shaw was the personal friend of David Ferry.
David Ferry was a CIA agent, and was also a pilot for Carlos Marchello—the
CIA and the Mafia together. Clay Shaw also was a friend of Lee Oswald,
and Garrison proves it.
Here we have Clay
Shaw, who was in the CIA. It was admitted by Richard Helms that Clay
Shaw was a "contract agent" for the CIA, and the highest security
involved in the Kennedy assassination, because he gets an attorney for
Dean Andrews who’s subpoenaed by Garrison. So, if Clay Shaw is involved,
he’s a Knight of Malta, he’s high CIA, and he can’t go down.
That’s why the court
was packed. The judge was biased against Garrison. The defense of Shaw
was unlike any before. There was a guy behind, whispering to the defense
attorney. That’s not allowed in a courtroom defense.
Shaw HAD to be found
innocent, because if he was found guilty, now the CIA is going down. Now
we’re going to have a revolution. So, Clay Shaw had to be found not
But it wasn’t many
years after that, he died under suspicious conditions and never had an
autopsy. He died of lung cancer. But he’s part of the brotherhood, and
the Jesuits are very powerful in New Orleans.
McCone was a very powerful industrialist, and one who was part of the
military-industrial complex, before he became the head of the CIA. He
later went on to become part of, I believe, ITT.
John McCone was
another Knight of Malta, head of the CIA, and participated in the
Kennedy assassination by virtue of him being its head. And he’s Knight
Angelton is a Knight
of Malta. Henry Luce is a Knight of Malta. William F. Buckley is a
Knight of Malta. And William F. Buckley then ran the National Review—and
what does he do? He blames Oswald as the lone assassin.
Where was the picture
concocted, for Oswald, as though his head is put on this body that’s not
his? It was concocted, probably, I believe, in the Time-Life
Building, when they did that, because Time-Life has a whole bunch
of CIA agents in it. And, remember, Time-Life is right across the
street from St. Patrick’s Cathedral, where Cardinal Spellman was ruling
So, Spellman was
overseeing the whole thing, with Henry Luce. And, if you get Luce And
His Empire, there is a picture in there of Cardinal Spellman, Luce,
Grace, Clare Boothe Luce, and Dean Rusk, on the 1963, 4-year anniversary
of Time magazine in the Waldorf Astoria, only months before the
Kennedy assassination. And there’s Dean Rusk, the architect of the
Vietnam War, according to the words of his own son.
Ok, who’s the other
one? Howard Hunt. Howard Hunt is a CIA agent, of course.
He said he was never
in Dallas the day of the assassination, but Mark Lane proved that he
was. Thank God for Mark Lane. Here’s another Jew getting in the way of
the Vatican. Just like Daniel Ellsberg—here’s another Jew getting in the
way of the Vatican’s Vietnam War.
You see Jews who are
getting in the way of the Vatican, and the Jesuits are furious about it.
So here’s Mark Lane; he’s openly defeated William F. Buckley in court
before; now he proves that Howard Hunt is a CIA agent, in Dallas the day
of the assassination.
The jury came forward
with that verdict, and who is Howard Hunt? Howard Hunt is a personal
friend of Henry Luce, a correspondent for Time-Life. He’s a
personal friend of William F. Buckley. He goes to one of Buckley’s
parties at the New York Yacht Club. He knows them both. He knows two of
the High Knights.
And guess what? Guess
what Howard Hunt is called? He’s called "Knight". (laughter)
I wonder what he
was—Knight of Columbus, or whatever. But he’s involved with the
So he was there on the
day of the assassination, intimate with Luce and Buckley. Just as the
chart says on my web page. And by the way, your readers need to look at
going to mention a few more names.
Phelps: Oh, J.
Peter Grace we forgot. J. Peter Grace was the head of the Knights of
Malta in 1963. He is the head of W. R. Grace, and he’s one of the
largest shipping tycoons in the world, in control of all the shipping in
South America. Grace is a powerful man, or was a powerful man.
anyone filled his shoes?
Flynn is head of the Knights of Malta now, down in Florida where there
new office is. They moved from New York to Florida, I think Bocca
Raton. They have 11 Knights of Malta on the W. R. Grace board.
And, of course, guess
who owns Taco Bell? W. R. Grace.
So now we see W. R.
Grace involved in the poisoning of America with fast-food chains, so
everybody gets heart disease, clogged arteries, so they can go to bypass
surgery and further enrich the medical profession, while carrying out
their medical inquisition. Isn’t that clear? So not only are they going
to kill all of the American people, but they’re going to make billions
sure they’re laughing all the way to the bank.
sure are. And where Grace did his banking, W. R. Grace, they did their
banking at Chemical Bank in New York. Guess who runs Chemical Bank?
Knights of Malta.
Garrison was a very brave guy.
Phelps: Yes, he
was. He lost his marriage. He lost his children. He suffered greatly
through this, doing what he did.
Martin: Ok, I
want to talk about the movie JFK. You mention the Jesuits, in
control of Time-Warner, produced Oliver Stone’s movie JFK.
What was the reason for this? To just further cement, subliminally in
the minds of the American people, their absolute power?
Phelps: I think
that might be part of it. But, I think it’s a test. It’s a test: tell
the American people the truth to see what they will do about it. And
they did nothing.
And that was the end
of Garrison, or Kevin Costner’s speech, in the courtroom, when he said
"It’s up to you." And he looks directly into the camera. So, he’s
looking at us.
That was a call to do
something about it. It’s a test. What will we do? And you know what was
done? Nothing. The men in power, the men in the know, the men who could
have said something, did nothing. So that was the purpose of the movie.
interweave all these Jesuit subliminals all throughout the movie: "Black
is white, white is black"—when Garrison is at the restaurant, talking to
his people—that’s Ignatius Loyola. David Ferry shows pictures of his
Catholic uniform there, and Satan pictures in his apartment, all very
There were a couple of
other things I noticed that I can’t quite remember. Oh, they had a
subliminal "study the past". It goes on there, it’s on a building or
something, "study the past". And they said: "It’s like Caesar; he’s not
in the loop." Well, Caesar was murdered by those close to him. And the
ones who murdered Caesar were the priests of Rome. There’s all kinds of
subliminals in that movie which point to the power of the Jesuit Order,
all over. The assassination—right after they take his body out of
Parkland Hospital, they’ve got the cross on it, the crucifix. That is a
very unique, Jesuit crucifix.
When I was at a Jesuit
retreat in Redding one day, I just wanted to walk through the place. I
wanted to see where these sinners rule from, so I thought I would walk
through the place and check out the rooms. It just so happened that the
Jesuits were on the second floor, by themselves. So I went to the first
floor and the third floor, and looked into the rooms. They were little,
tiny rooms, and on every bed is a crucifix with a crucified person on
it. It’s not the Jesus Christ of the Bible; it’s their Jesus
Christ. And that’s the same exact crucifix that was put on the coffin,
in the movie, when they’re shipping the coffin out.
And get a load of
this: the guy who came to give Kennedy the Last Rites, Oscar Hubert, his
superior was the Bishop of Dallas, by the name of Thomas Gorman. Bishop
Thomas Gorman was a Knight of Malta, answerable directly to Cardinal
talk about Cardinal Spellman. Who was he? Why was he so important? You
say, in the book, he really was the man behind it.
Martin: Why do
you say that?
Cardinal Spellman was, first, very much involved in politics all of his
life. Remember, he was trained by the Jesuits at Fordham. He was trained
by Jesuits at the American College in Rome. When he came back here, he
was taken care of by Nicholas Brady and his wife, multi-billionaires in
control of Union Carbide, and various banks, multi-multi-billionaires.
Spellman was part of
getting FDR into office, although I believe Cardinal Hayes was the
Cardinal. Guess who FDR names as his international agent, during World
War II? Francis Spellman. Francis Spellman was throughout the war-front
during World War II, going to and from the Vatican, the Allied Army,
etc. And, with that, he built a huge network of contacts. He, also, of
course, had contacts with the mob.
So, by the time of the
Kennedy assassination, we have Cardinal Spellman here, who helped the
Nazis get into the United States, with the FBI.
I met one of those
Nazis about 6 months ago. I call him Pete. He showed me his Nazi SS
overcoat, which is a beautiful overcoat—I’d love to have it. And it was
the FBI who brought all of these High Nazis in and resettled them, and
gave them money to settle.
Who did that? Francis
Spellman, by helping those criminals escape the theater of Europe so
that they could not be prosecuted. It’s called the "Vatican Ratline"
that Loftus writes about in his Unholy Trinity.
So, Spellman is
involved in getting the SS out, helping the Ustashis. Spellman is
involved in this whole second 30 Years War of the Vatican in Europe,
outlined by Edmond Paris in his Vatican Against Europe.
And so, he is in a
perfect place to carry out the assassination. He has contacts with the
Knights of Malta in England, with the Knights he controls in America; he
has his Jesuit contacts who trained him at Fordham and Rome; he was a
personal friend of Pius XII during the war.
He was a personal
friend of the secret cold-warrior, Montini, Pius VI. So he is the
perfect man, with all of the connections, to carry it out. He has
contacts with the CIA, the Knights from the CIA, the Knights from the
FBI, in the person of Carthe DeLouthe, who still lives. He had contacts
with high-level Freemasonry, with people like J. Edgar Hoover and their
raving against Communism, Communism, Communism—international, Godless,
He and Hoover are
bosom, probably bed, partners. And so, Spellman is in a place to be in
control of the CIA, the FBI, the Mafia, and through Freemasonry, the
Dallas Police Department—like they control every major city’s P.D. And
so he carries it out.
And then he’s also in
control of the press, in control of Time and Life, with
Henry Luce, so the press never gets it. He’s in control of CBS, with a
man named Frank Shakespeare, who was the head of CBS at the time.
So you think Walter
Cronkite is going to tell us the truth? No way. He’s in
control of CBS, NBC, ABC. They have stocks in it, for heaven’s sake. So,
there’s no way the story’s getting out. And he’s in control of the CIA
to hit and kill anybody who wants to come out and tell the truth, which
is why there’s over a hundred dead witnesses over the last 30 years.
That’s why they took
out Fensterwald, in 1992, outlined in the book by that CIA agent
First Hand Knowledge, by Morrow. He was a CIA agent.
He was in on the Kennedy assassination. He completely outlines it in his
book, and he tells of that relationship of the CIA to killing
Fensterwald. He dedicates his book to Fensterwald.
So, how’s it getting
out? This is only getting out by fearless preachers, who preach the Word
of God, and aren’t afraid of telling the truth politically, trusting God
that He will move and do His part, now that we’ve done our part.
Director Hoover, Earl Warren, Gerald Ford, Johnson—Jesuit tools?
tools. All 33rd-Degree Freemasons. And remember, the Council of the 33rd
Degree is located in Washington. They control all of the Shriners in
this country. Washington is controlled by the Jesuits from Georgetown.
The capital of the
United States is at Georgetown University, not the White House.
And if you go into the
president’s office at Georgetown, you will see a picture of Bill
Clinton, kneeling at the grave of Timothy Healy [past president of
Georgetown], while the present president, Donovan, who is on the
Walt Disney Board, is standing behind him.
I wanted that picture;
I wanted a copy of that picture. Those people threw me out of that
office. They would not let me have a copy of it. I sent another person,
a lady, up there. They would not give it to her. I want that picture,
for my book, of Bill Clinton kneeling at the grave of these Jesuits.
Can’t get it. But if you go in the president’s office, it’s there.
Georgetown is the
capital. They control all Freemasonry. In fact, if you go to Maryland,
they’ve got the great big lodge across from a great big Jesuit
institution, in Baltimore—a great huge Shriner Lodge is across the
street from a Jesuit University. And they’re enemies?
Martin: I want
to talk about Bill Clinton in a minute, but before we get to him, who is
DeLoach—his sir name was Deke. He was the 3rd-in-command of the FBI at
the time of the Kennedy assassination. Cartha DeLoach was the real head
of the FBI. Hoover was a wimp. His queer buddy, Tolson, who was nothing,
was second in command.
So Hoover and Tolson
were just figure-heads. The real head of the FBI was Cartha DeLoach, the
Knight of Malta, Roman Catholic, subject to Cardinal Spellman.
fabricated evidence, covered-up evidence in the FBI, in the Kennedy
assassination. That was proven by Jim Garrison. Cartha DeLoach went on
to retire. He went on to work for a huge industry corporation called
PepsiCo, which the Knights of Malta control, and which have ranches in
Communist China, which they set up. And he still lives.
Cartha DeLoach wrote a
book called Hoover’s FBI. You can get it at the bookstores. In
that book he tells about the Secret Service, the FBI, and the Jesuits.
Martin: Why do
you refer to the Kennedy assassination as the "Achilles’ Heel" of the
Because, if it’s ever known that the Jesuits killed our first Roman
Catholic President, if the Roman Catholics of Northeastern America ever
find that out, and ever believe it, the Jesuits are finished here.
This country is the
keystone to implementing the temporal power of the Pope around the
world. If this country would expel the Jesuits, and we get back our
national sovereignty, and we started to be self-governing once again, we
would have our liberty, and the Jesuits would be out, and we would begin
to experience REAL financial prosperity, and real living.
So, if that is known
that the Jesuits are the ones behind it, that Rome carried this out, the
Catholics of the Northeast would have a revolution. We would have
another revolution because American Roman Catholics are not like
Catholics in any other country: they think. They have their own opinion.
They believe in freedom of conscience. They believe they have the right
to express themselves.
Catholics in Poland
don’t believe that. Catholics in Italy wouldn’t dare believe that. But
the Catholics here do. They have a lot of Protestant principles. They
don’t really comprehend this whole idea of universal, world-wide
temporal power of the Pope. They think it’s just a religion.
But, if those
Catholics in New York, if those two million Roman Catholics knew that
Spellman was behind it, and O’Connor has covered it up, we’d have a
revolution! Because it’s the Roman Catholics, unfortunately, who only do
anything about things. The Protestants don’t do anything. They’re all a
bunch of wimps, a bunch of cowards. They don’t do anything.
It’s the Roman
Catholics who apparently have built our major cities. They built our
skyscrapers. They’re the great steel workers. They’re the ones,
apparently, with the guts enough to bring about a change. The only
problem is, they’re unGodly because they don’t know the Lord. They don’t
read the Bible. They don’t know Christ. They’re not born-again.
If they would get born-again, and come to know Christ, with their
determination and their resistance to tyranny, we’d have another
Reformation. And a lot of people’s heads would be going on trial, and to
the block, for treason.
going to go back, now. How did the Protocols Of The Learned Elders Of
Zion, authored, according to you, by the Jesuits, further the Jesuit
Phelps: Ok. To
anwer that, we probably ought to look at the different Protocols.
Now, to my mind, I believe there’s 20 or 30 Protocols; I can’t
quite remember. But the Protocols further the agenda of the
Jesuit Order in that Russia would be taken and, in the fall of Russia,
in the Bolshevik Revolution, two major things would happen: The Romanoff
dynasty would be removed. Now, of course, the Czar was not killed at
Ekaterinburg; we know that from the book The File On
The Czar. We know that his daughter died in the state of Virginia [not
very long ago]. We know his son, Alexi, became a
member of the KGB, later came to New York, and he put out what was
called The White Paper. The Royal Family was not killed, because
they were Knights of Malta.
So, the Knights of
Malta took the Royal Family out, faked their death, and then after they
had taken the Romanoffs out, the Orthodox Church no longer had a
protector, because Church and State are one in Russia.
Now the Jesuits were
free, with their Bolsheviks, to kill-off the Orthodox leadership that
was anti-Rome. That’s why they killed 5,000 priests and nuns, during the
revolution, of the Orthodox Church. They just beheaded all the
anti-Catholic, anti-Pope leadership of the Orthodox Church.
They got rid of the
Romanoffs, and then the next thing they did, they began to purge Russia
of its Protestants, in general. They purged it of its Lutherans; they
burned down the Lutheran Church; imprisoned the Baptists; sent them off
to Siberia. They even destroyed two Jewish communities during the ’20s,
which we’re not told.
The Jews fared well
for 10 years, until the purges of Stalin in the ’30s. But the Jesuits
accomplished the killing-off, the getting rid of the Romanoff dynasty
and their protectorate of the Orthodox Church, the beheading of the
Orothodox Church, so they could bring Orthodox Moscow back to Rome. And
remember, Moscow is considered the "Third Rome". The first is Rome; the
second is Constantinople; the third is Moscow. And you can find this,
you can find the Jesuit alliance with the Bolsheviks in a book called
Descent Into Darkness by a priest named Zatko, who taught at Notre
Dame University in the ’60s.
And so the Jesuits
were given formal re-entry into Russia in 1922, after the Bolshevik
Revolution and Civil War, and from then on—the Russian College was
erected in Rome in 1929, so they could prepare Russian Jesuits to rule
Russia. And that’s what they’ve done, and they’ve ruled through the KGB,
just like they rule this country through the CIA and the FBI.
outline this. Remember, the Protocols were discovered in Russia,
and translated by an Englishman, Marsden. But what it also did—because
then they set-up the huge gulag system, the huge concentration camp
system, that gave the Jesuits practice to do this in Europe.
But their great
accomplishment was, in the process of pulling all of this off, they
blamed it on the Jews, and in so doing, justified in the eyes of the
European people the annihilation of the Jewish race in Europe—because
it’s the Jews who did this in Russia! The Jews killed all the Christians
in Russia! The Jews sent them off to Siberia! After all, wasn’t Trotsky
a Jew? Wasn’t Lenin a Jew? It’s all the Jews! So, they fell for the
So they blamed it all
on the Jews, purged Europe of its Jews, so Europe is primarily Roman
Catholic now. It’s a Roman Catholic block, and it will be the army of
the Anti-Christ, with its European Union.
The Jews, then, were
forced out of the nations to Israel. And remember, during World War II,
when the Jews tried to escape and they were desperate to get out of
Germany, do you think Jew-controlled Russia would let the Jews in? If
the Jews really controlled Russia, they could have gone right into
Russia. They were not allowed. Stalin would not allow any Jews to go
into Russia. Churchill would not allow any Jews to go into England. And
that criminal, FDR, would not allow any Jews to come into America. They
were not allowed to escape.
They were either to be
killed or funneled down through Israel, to be killed by the Mufti, that
was working with the SS, Eichmann. Loftus is right. There
is a secret war against the Jews, and all of the intelligence
communities are waging it.
And the Jews don’t
perceive it because their Rabbis, the majority of their Rabbis, are
traitors. I talked to a Rabbi in Lancaster County and I told him to look
out for the Jesuit Order. He says "Oh, they’re some of my best friends!"
Well, that explains it. The Rabbis betray their own people at the hand
of these inquisitors. And that’s what they did in World War II, and
they’re going to do it here.
talk about Garfield and McKinley. Why were they assassinated?
Phelps: I think
Garfield was assassinated on a monetary issue; he was resisting the
banking plans of the Jesuits. He was a radical, red Republican, too, you
know, so they got rid of their own. I’m not familiar with all of the
details. All I know is Burke McCarty in the book The Suppressed Truth
About The Assassination Of Lincoln named McKinley and Garfield as
other victims of the Jesuit Order. And had the Lincoln assassination
been solved, that would never have happened. The other important issue
is that Garfield was a Freemason. So, they assassinate their own
Freemasons, when they want to.
back to Lincoln, who was John Surratt?
Surratt was the young man, 20 years old, who called time outside of
Ford’s Theater. He was mastermind of the assassination. John Surratt was
helped by the priests of Washington to escape Washington, went up into
Canada, was taken care of and housed by the priests, by the Bishop of
Montreal, and then he was ferried across the ocean in The Peruvian, in a
steamer called The Peruvian, and he went to, I believe, Ireland,
then into England, then he went to Rome, to the Pope’s Vatican there. He
joined the Zouave army, and he was stationed
in Alexandria, Egypt, until he was found and arrested.
In 1867, he was
brought back and stood trial in Washington. There a woman was involved
in the picking of the jury, and a High Roman Catholic was put on it. And
because it’s no murder to kill a heretic, the jury was hung in the first
trial and Surratt went free. And he was also free in the second trial,
because there were two trials. He died in 1914, I believe, at the age of
72, and they gave him, of course, a very, very, pompous funeral, a High
Requiem Mass that are usually only given for priests and nuns.
Evidently, he deserved it.
Of course, John Wilkes
Booth, he was never killed. Corbett never killed Booth in the
barn. Booth escaped Washington with a password, according to Finis
Bates’ work The Escape And Suicide Of John Wilkes Booth. He
escaped to Kansas, and on his death bed confessed to his physician that
he was John Wilkes Booth who shot Lincoln. And he escaped with the help
of a Masonic password. So just like there was a patsy for the Lincoln
assassination, there was a patsy for the Kennedy assassination.
Martin: Why is
April 15th so significant?
Well, April 15 was the day that Lincoln called out troops on the South.
It was the day that Lincoln died. He was shot on the 14th and died on
the 15th. It’s the day that the Titanic was sunk. And it’s the day all
the 14th Amendment citizens of this empire, like the good
serfs that they are, go to confession once a year and confess to the
government with their tax returns. Beware the Ides of April. (laughter)
talk about the Cold War. Why did that come about?
Phelps: We had
the end of World War II. We had the purging of the Jews and the
Protestants, for the most part. The British Empire was destroyed, it’s
wrecked, which was essentially the empire that the Gospel went to China
with. Modern missions were founded on the British Empire.
So, that Protestant
Empire, even though it was controlled by Rome, was done. We have America
in huge financial debt, out of isolationism. We have a Russia that’s
taken over by the Jesuits, through Joseph Stalin. Of course, the great
beneficiary of World War II was Russia—Russia was the only country that
won. But the Jesuits are not finished with their purgings and their
installings of dictators loyal to the Pope, around the world. I mean,
they pretty much have South America. They pretty much have Africa. But
they don’t have the East, and the Orthodox nations, and the Buddhist
So, the purpose of the
Cold War was to kill millions of these heretic, orthodox Buddhists, and
to install in their country dictators that will carry out the
Inquisition, who are loyal to the Pope.
One of those dictators
was Joseph Stalin. And he was given the nuclear device in 1943 by the
U.S. government, by the U.S. army. And you can find that in The
Unseen Hand by Ralph Epperson. He did a lot of good documentation.
So, they gave him the
bomb. I shouldn’t call it "the bomb" because they gave him the nuclear
device so that he could detonate it and create the illusion that Russia
now has nuclear capability, when a wheel-barrow was a great invention in
I mean, the Russian
soldiers, when they went into Germany and they found toilets, they were
dipping their bread in the toilets and eating their bread out of
toilets. In Russia they were just savages. They didn’t have technology;
they had nothing. All the technology they ever got was given by
Vatican-controlled Western corporations, whose inventors were
So, the Cold War has
to continue under Stalin. And we have to divide up the world into two
factions, so we’re going to put Roman Catholic NATO on one side, and
we’re going to put Communist-controlled Warsaw Pact on the other.
But in the process of
so doing, they put Protestant East Germany under Communism to purge the
Protestants of East Germany out of the country. That’s why they sent
them to Siberia. They put Protestant-Lutheran Latvia, Lithuania, and
Estonia under Communism, so they deported them all to Siberia. They put
the Mennonites of Russia further under Communism, deporting them to
Siberia. They deported the Baptists of Russia to Siberia, because they
could only do—wimpy, gimpy, powerless, Russian army that it was—we could
easily have beat it into the ground, if it had not been financed and
supported and built by Henry Ford and Western corporations.
So, wimpy, gimpy
Russia has this nuclear device, right? And oh, if we decide to go to war
with Russia, well, we might get bombed! There’s mutual, assured
destruction. So to keep that from happening, we won’t fight ’em, and
we’ll let them purge the world of all its Protestants. That’s the
purpose of the Cold War.
The Cold War then went
into China, and the U.S. 7th Fleet, according to the Birch Society, and
they’re right about this, blocked Chiang Kai-Shek from being able to go
into China and take over the country. So, Mao Se-Dung could get in
control, get in power, and then carry out his inquisition against the
land owners, against the Buddhists, against all the Protestant
missionaries who were in China—just like the good Jesuit pawn that he
And, of course, the
intimidation idea was that you can’t go to China—why, there’s millions
of people there! Meanwhile, the Japanese whipped the Chinese to death in
their war with China, when the Japanese went in. The Chinese had no
technology. They had no organized army. They were easy to beat.
But the idea we were
sold was: Oh no—China is a great, powerful nation, and now they even
have the bomb! Stalin gave them a bomb, so we can’t fight them anymore.
So we won’t do anything to them, while they’re murdering 50 million
people. And remember the "baby-boomers" of the United States, we would
have fought the world. We would have rid the world of tyranny, had we
had leadership that would have led us to that. But we had this farce,
called the nuclear, mutual assured destruction. We had this farce called
the dropping of the bombs at Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Whatever it was, it
wasn’t dropping nuclear bombs—and Edwin Corley does a pretty good job in
his The Jesus Factor, in trying to tell you what else it was.
And so, we have this
nonsense Cold War, which enables Rome to put up all their dictators,
their Communist dictators, all of them loyal to the Pope—including Ho
Chi Minh. Ho Chi Minh had a secret deal with Pope John XXIII, and he was
under the advice of a Roman Catholic Bishop all throughout the war.
The purpose of the
Cold War was to carry out the Council of Trent, and to tie the hands of
the American Protestants; and it was also used to unite the Protestants
and Catholics of America against Communism. Protestants and Catholics
should unite on nothing. We are different. The Catholics have a final
authority—that’s the Pope. The Baptists and Protestants should have a
final authority—that’s the Bible. We don’t unite on anything. We
don’t agree on anything. We don’t agree on America’s national purpose,
so we don’t unite. We’re not uniting with abortion; we’re not uniting
with Communism; we don’t unite against the Black or the Civil Rights
You see, all these
things were used to unite Catholics and Protestants together here, so
that, ultimately, Rome would be in control of all the Protestant
denominations through the National Council of Churches and the Royal
Council of Churches. And that’s what they got. They took Princeton; they
took Dartmouth College. All the great Protestant Universities are now in
the hands of the Masons and the Jesuits. Harvard has a Jesuit House.
They’re controlled. And so, wherever they control education, they
control the politics. And they control the education in China, Russia,
all the Communist countries. Now that they have all of the dictators
installed all throughout the world, they don’t need the Cold War
anymore. So now they can proceed with their next agenda, and that’s the
unification of Europe, the building up of Russia, and the destruction of
the Western Empire. And that’s their next agenda.
Martin: How do
you see that unfolding?
destruction of the Western Empire.
Phelps: As far
as the actions of overthrowing the government and having a tyranny, is
that what you mean?
What do you see life like here in the next 5 or 10 years?
hard to put a date on it; it’s hard to put a year on it. But I would say
it’s going to continually become more and more a matter of "central
power" in Washington. You’re going to have less and less power in the
Congress. And one of these days, the Congress is going to be closed. And
all we’re going to have is a Commander-in-Chief. We’re going to have
some form of absolutism, with the President becoming now a dictator.
Martin: Do you
think George Bush, Jr. will be that person?
could be. I won’t say he will be, but he could be. It will be someone
like him—with complete allegiance to Rome, just like his father. His
grandfather helped set up the CFR. His uncle is a Knight of Malta. It
will be someone like him.
And he WILL be the
next President. They’ve already chosen him in the College of Cardinals.
Everything else is a show. Jesuit-trained Buchanan is a show. Roman
Catholic McCain is a show. The Black Roman Catholic Keyes is a show,
although he tickles me. He advocates abolition of the 14th Amendment.
If that happens, what are the Black people going to do? They’re not
citizens; they have no rights! Dred Scott comes into play. He’s a fake.
So, what I see is more
and more centralization of power in the hands of the President. The
Supreme Court is just a rubber stamp. He becomes the king. The courts
are nothing more than the courts of the king’s bench. The Federal
Reserve Bank will remain in power. Everything will be monitored and
controlled by Washington, unless some of God’s men start trusting God
and get in control of the state and cause it to secede. The only answer
to this is state secession, leaving this Union—it’s not a
Union, it’s an Empire—leaving the Empire that began in 1868, assuming
national sovereignty, once again. And the first state that would do
this, I’m moving there. Because I don’t want to see the FBI anymore. I
don’t want to see the CIA. I don’t want to see any of these national
seems close. Arizona seems close.
when they do it, I’ll move there. But that’s what would happen if things
continue as they are. We’ll have race war. We’re going to have the
Moslems fighting the Klu Klux Klan. Whites siding with the Whites; the
Blacks siding with the Blacks. It’s going to be a blood-bath everywhere.
And that will justify Martial Law, and the military, and the whole nine
yards, and also foreign occupation; we’re going to have that too. And
you know how foreigners are in a foreign country. They rape the women.
They couldn’t care less about the social strata of the country. They
have no mercy on the people. They have a foreign tongue. And that’s what
they’ll do. And that’s all the more reason for a state to secede.
I’ve advocated that
Pennsylvania should secede for the last 15 years. We have our own
deep-water ports; we have our own agriculture; we have our own heavy
industry; we have coal; we have everything we need to be a sovereign
nation. We don’t need this Empire anymore. The only problem is,
Pennsylvania is COMPLETELY controlled by the Jesuits.
Every major city is
under their control. And so, the place is slated for destruction—all the
Mennonite and Amish counties of Southeastern Pennsylvania. Everything
else is Catholic: Pittsburgh, Scranton, Philadelphia, Harrisburg—all
Roman Catholic. The Roman Catholic people, too, will also be sacrificed.
They will be killed too. Let them not think that they’re going to be
delivered because the Jesuits run the show. According to the Jesuit
Molina, in the tape I just sent you, it is lawful to kill—and they
will kill as many Roman Catholics as necessary to bring this plan to
the Jesuit term: Universal Absolutism.
Define it? That means worldwide, universal, over every nation, absolute
power. Absolutism is their great doctrine, that absolute power resides
in the hands of the General. He is limited by no constitution. He is
limited by no law.
This is the Great
Doctrine of Divine Right, the Divine Right of Kings that was so fought
against by the Calvinists. We Bible-believing Calvinists believe
in the Rule of Law. The Law is king. Rutherford’s "Lex Rex". The Jesuits
believe the king is the law—Louis XIV: "I am the law". So, it’s going to
be a universal, world-wide king who, himself, is the law. All authority
will be in him, as he rules the world from Jerusalem, as the Beast.
Martin: Are we
talking about the present Pope, or are we talking about Count von
saying that what’s in position now will ultimately bring in the future
Pope, whoever he is, and whatever it may be, as a Universal
Absolutist—the Universal Monarch of the World, in Jerusalem.
Symbolic? Or you’re saying literal?
saying that will literally happen. There will be a Pope, who will be
killed; he will receive a mortal wound. And this is going to happen in
the 70th week of Daniel. He will receive a mortal wound,
according to Revelation 13.
This is the Beast, and
he will come back to life. He comes back to life, mid-trip, at the very
time that Satan and his angels are cast out of Heaven by Michael and his
angels. At this time, Satan goes and he indwells the Beast, this Pope.
Now he comes back to life, just like Christ. He was dead; now he’s
And what is he going
to do? He’s going to destroy the Catholic Church. He’s going to destroy
the Vatican; and he’s going to go down in Jerusalem and demand to be
worshipped as God, for three and a half years.
That’s why the Vatican
is indestructible. No one can destroy the Vatican. All the armies in the
world couldn’t destroy it. It has been determined that it will be
destroyed by the Anti-Christ. And he, alone, can do it.
That’s why, when the
Yugoslavians wanted to mount an air attack against the Vatican in World
War II, a bunch of clouds came over the airport and they couldn’t take
off, because they were going to bomb the Vatican. The world will not
allow that to happen. The Vatican will only be destroyed by the man of
sin, the Beast, the coming Universal Monarch, the ex-Universal Pope.
The Vatican has the
most extensive library in the world, the most priceless and extensive
library. It goes for miles, underground, in the Vatican.
Wouldn’t you love to go in there.
Phelps: I would
love to. Talk about finding sunken treasure.
almost covered it. I almost don’t want to dilute this conversation with
the FDA and AMA. Let’s talk about them just briefly.
World War II, produced of course by Rome, caused the Nazi experiments on
the people in the concentration camps—the Jews, the Gypsies, the
Socialists, primarily the Jews. But they experimented with things like
fluoride. They experimented with things like EDTA chelation, which is
THE treatment of choice for anybody with heart disease. They
experimented with poisons. They experimented with surgeries. They
experimented with all kinds of things on these people. They also
experimented with vaccinations and immunizations.
There’s a book called
The Nazi Doctors. Everything that was learned by them was
integrated into the American Medical Association, after the war. That’s
why we all have our municipal water supplies fluoridated. That’s why
they’re all chlorinated, because chlorine decreases oxygen, and
therefore causes cancer, because cancer grows in an anaerobic state—it’s
a virus, converting cells into mutants that are anaerobic.
Ok. All of Europe is
using ozone to clean their water supplies. Here they use chlorine. They
want us with cancer. And how do we get cancer? With the vaccinations and
immunizations, where they inject us with live viruses, like the
hepatitis vaccine—every one of them has the HIV virus, SV-40.
What they’re doing is
what they learned in Nazi Germany. They implemented here and they
continue their research in the CIA. There’s a two-tape set called The
CIA And The Virus Makers which show how the CIA helped to create the
HIV virus and various other viruses. They get into Robert Gallo, the
world’s foremost virologist.
Robert Gallo is a
Jesuit. He’s a Roman Catholic, Italian, the world’s foremost
virologist—and yet not controlled by the Brotherhood, by the Company?
Ridiculous. He’s under their control! He’s doing all the research, and
he doesn’t want to be blamed for it—as the WONDERFUL Jew, Len Horowitz,
proved. Again, we’ve got Jews getting in the way—Jews blowing their
interviewed Len many times. He’s a very courageous guy.
guy. And he’s right on target. And he hits the Knights of Malta in his
book Emerging Viruses: AIDS & Ebola. He was a great encouragement
to me when I saw him do that, when I read his book.
So, hey, let’s just
take it the whole way. Let’s just go right to the Jesuit Order. And what
the Jesuits did with the Cold War, with their Inquisition in the East,
they carry out with their war on the American people in the West, with
their Medical Inquisition—cut, burn, and drug. And that’s what it is.
Personally, I have my
own home where I use ozone oxygen. I use ultraviolet blood irradiation.
I can show you how ultraviolet blood irradiation incapacitates Lupus. It
destroys Hepatitis. It destroys Meningitis. It destroys HIV.
This is a very simple
procedure; I do it every day. It can easily be done by any medical
doctor, and they won’t do it. Because, when you kill off the virus, you
don’t have the diseases. You are thwarting what they wanted to do with
their vaccinations and immunizations.
That’s why they want
to make a law. That’s why that filthy Ted Kennedy, that Knight of
Columbus, wants all these vaccinations and immunizations—when it should
be a religious tenet of everyone: "It’s against my religious convictions
to put foreign pathogens into my bloodstream. It’s going to make me sick
by the time I’m 40. It’s going to give me plaque build-up and
heart-disease. I’m not going to do it."
In the meantime,
they’re suppressing all the things that reverse it: soft lasers,
hyperbaric chambers, ultraviolet blood irradiation, oxygen ozone,
north-pole magnetic therapy. All the things working together that would
easily reverse it, they suppress, and consider it a crime. Make sense?
Phelps: When I
was in the office of my friend, William, in Maryland, he told me that he
had a guy from NSA [National Security Agency] come in and talk to
him about his blood irradiation, and told him: "I think that it would be
wise for you to stop this."
Now, this guy who runs
the clinic there in Maryland is an ex-Navy Seal. He’s no pushover. So he
says to the NSA guy: "Well, why do you say that?"
And the NSA guy said:
"You know how Royal Rife died? We put poison on his tooth-brush."
This guy was from NSA.
So, that was a threat. Well, now, some people get scared, and some
people get upset, angry. William is one of those guy who gets upset and
angry, and it furthers him that much harder.
So, mysteriously, the
head of the Ultraviolet Blood Irradiation Foundation died, about 3 or 4
months ago, in his apartment, with no autopsy. So they almost destroyed
the foundation, but now he is in the process of securing capital—and he
will, I’m sure, very shortly, and it’s going to be untouchable. The
machines will be put out and it will have UVC and UVA to do the blood,
and we’re going to kill-off all the viruses in the bloodstream. And
we’re going to teach the medical doctors how to do it. We’ll provide the
machines for them. And we’re going to end this tyranny. And we’ll also
educate them—no more vaccinations and immunizations.
There are only two
things I’m a member of in this country: one is the national anti-vaccine
society, and the other is Gun Owner’s of America. Those are the only two
organizations that are really worth supporting. If you get the
vaccinations away from the people, they’re not going to be sick. And if
you maintain guns in the hands of the people, they can still use them
against the tyrants. And if they go to church and read the Bible,
they’ll have all the spiritual zest and zeal to do it.
haven’t even talked about Nikola Tesla in this conversation.
He was deliberately thwarted by the FBI, all his papers stolen in 1943.
J.P. Morgan destroyed him. J.P. Morgan was one of the kingpins in the
Nikola Tesla was a
wonderful man. He came here for freedom. He was a Serbian Orthodox—a
curse to Rome. The father of A.C. current. He developed a whole system
of Universal Power, that we would need no coal or any of that. So, one
of my other goals is to perfect the electromagnetic motor. When my book
gets out, then I will be working with some men in perfecting
electromagnetic motors, and they will be out, without a patent,
just about there. Let’s talk about Bill Clinton. How do you see Bill
Clinton in relationship to the Jesuits? And how do you see Al Gore? What
can our readers glean from what you’re saying about their power base?
we must remember: where did Bill Clinton come from? How did he become
Governor? His father was a powerful political figure, because his mother
was nothing. So, he came from nothing to being something, through some
powerful political figure, probably the Kennedys.
It’s rumored that John
Kennedy was his father; could be. In any event, Clinton was trained by
the Jesuits of Georgetown. He was the class president of his junior
year, I believe. His senior year, he was not re-elected because the
student body said he was "too close to the Jesuit faculty".
So, he was groomed by
the Jesuits to be a powerful political leader. He was put in place in
Arkansas, runs that scam there, while he’s Governor, in the drug trade,
belonging to Rome, working with Reagan in the drug trade, and Bush. Then
he’s made President.
Remember the picture
of him at Georgetown, kneeling at the grave of Timothy Healy? That says
it all. He is the complete and total pawn of the Jesuit Order ruling
from Georgetown University. He does anything they want him to do. He
hasn’t resisted a thing.
That’s why he’s
untouchable. He can commit any crime. He can do any act of evil, and
never be prosecuted, because they’ll call on traitors like Arlen Spector
to vindicate him. And, of course, Arlen Spector was Spelly’s Jew in the
Kennedy assassination—evil, wicked, lifetime Senator from Pennsylvania,
which shows me that there are no elections anymore. Nobody voted for
Arlen Spector who I know. He’s a gun-grabber. So, they made him a
life-time Senator. They made Teddy Kennedy a lifetime Senator.
Bill Clinton is
completely at their beck and call. He will get out of office. He will
live happily ever after, unless he starts talking. If he starts talking,
he’s done. He is NOT a Baptist. He is loyal to the Jesuit Order.
The Jesuits –
Their Purpose And Oath
The purpose of the
Jesuit Order, formally established by the Pope in 1540, is to destroy
the Protestant Reformation. They call it the Counter-Reformation.
Nicolini of Rome wrote:
"The Jesuits, by their
very calling, by the very essence of their institution, are bound to
seek, by every means, right or wrong, the destruction of Protestantism.
This is the condition of their existence, the duty they must fulfill, or
cease to be Jesuits." [Footprints of the Jesuits, R. W. Thompson,
To this end the
professed Jesuits have obligated themselves with an oath, part of which
was published in 1899, and reads:
"I do now renounce and
disown my allegiance as due to any heretical King, Prince or State,
named Protestant, or liberals, or obedience to any of their laws or
magistrates or officers.
"I do further declare
that the doctrine of the churches of England and Scotland, of the
Calvinists, Huguenots, and other of the name Protestant or Liberals, to
be damnable, and they themselves to be damned who will not forsake the
"I do further declare
that I will help, assist and advise all or any of His Holiness’ agents,
in any place where I shall be, in Switzerland, Germany, Holland,
Denmark, Sweden, Norway, England, Ireland or America, or in any other
kingdom or territory I shall come to, and do my utmost to extirpate the
heretical Protestant or liberal doctrines, and to destroy all their
pretended powers, legal or otherwise." [Errors of the Roman Catholic
Church, 15 Contributors, 1894]
In 1981, one of our
heroes, Alberto Rivera, disclosed the oath he took as a professed
Jesuit. We read:
Extreme Oath Of The Jesuits
(Given to a Jesuit
of minor rank when he is to be elevated to a position of command.)
"My son, heretofore
you have been taught to act the dissembler among the Roman Catholics to
be a Roman Catholic, and to be a spy even among your own brethren: to
believe no man, to trust no man. Among the reformers, to be a reformer;
among the Huguenots (French Protestants) to be a Huguenot: among the
Calvinists, to be a Calvinist: among the Protestants (those who protest
and disagree with the Roman Catholic institution), generally to be a
Protestant: and obtaining their confidence to seek even to preach from
their pulpits, and to denounce with all the vehemence (violent emotion)
in your nature our Holy Religion and the Pope; and even to descend so
low as to become a Jew among the Jews, that you might be enabled to
gather together all information for the benefit of your order as a
faithful soldier of the Pope.
"You have been taught
to insidiously plant the seeds of jealously and hatred between states
that were at peace, and incite them to deeds of blood, involving them in
war with each other, and to create revolutions and civil wars in
communities, provinces and countries that were independent and
prosperous, cultivating the arts and the sciences and enjoying the
blessings of peace;
"To take sides with
the combatants and to act secretly in concert with your brother Jesuit
who might be engaged on the other side, but openly opposed to that with
which you might be connected;
"Only that the church
might be the gainer in the end in the conditions fixed in the treaties
for peace, and that the ends justify the means.
"You have been taught
your duty as a spy, to gather all statistics, facts and information in
your power from every source: to ingratiate yourself into the confidence
of the family circle of Protestants and heretics of every class and
character, as well as that of the merchant, the banker, the lawyer,
among the schools and universities, in parliament and legislatures, and
in the judiciaries and councils of State, and to ‘be all things to all
men’, for the Pope’s sake, whose servants we are unto death.
"You have received all
your instructions heretofore as a novice (one who has no training), a
neophyte (a newly ordained priest), and have served as a coadjutor
(worked as a helper), confessor and priest, but you have not yet been
invested with all that is necessary to command in the army of Loyola and
in the service of the Pope.
"You must serve the
proper time as the instrument and executioner as directed by your
superiors; for none can command here who has not consecrated (made
secret or holy) his labors with the blood of the heretic; for ‘without
the shedding of blood no man can be saved.’
"I, _____, now, in the
presence of Almighty God, the blessed Virgin Mary, the blessed Michael
the Archangel, the blessed St. John the Baptist, the Holy Apostles, St.
Peter and St. Paul and all the saints and sacred hosts of heaven....
promise and declare that I will, when opportunity presents, make and
wage relentless war, secretly and openly, against all heretics,
Protestants and Liberals, as I am directed to do.
"That when the same
cannot be done openly, I will secretly use the poisoned cup, the
strangulation cord, the steel of the poniard (a dagger) or the leaden
bullet, regardless of the honor, rank, dignity, or authority of the
person or persons, whatever may be their condition in life, either
public or private, as I at any time may be directed so to do by any
agent of the Pope or superior of the brotherhood of the holy faith, of
the Society of Jesus." [Double-Cross: Alberto, Part 2, 1981]
In addition to the
Oath, the Jesuits have a guidebook entitled Secreta Monita. To
the author’s knowledge it has only been disclosed to the world twice:
once in the 1600s and once in the 1800s. Because of the magnitude of its
contents as it relates to our subject, The Secret Instructions Of The
Jesuits (1857) is reprinted in its entirety [in Vatican Assassins].
[Due to the length of
this material, we will only present a few
excerpts and chapter headings, but this should be sufficient to give you
a pretty good idea of what is contained within them. For the full
presentation, refer to Vatican Assassins. The portions your are
about to read have not, to our knowledge, been printed in any modern-day
What you are about to
read, The Secret Instructions Of The Jesuits, was first published
in 1669 by the venerable and learned Dr. Compton, Bishop of London. In
Vatican Assassins we read:]
His arguments on their
authenticity, and his character as a scholar and divine, are a
sufficient guarantee that he would never have given his name and
influence to sustain a work of dubious authority, or calculated to
mislead the public.
We have only to add
that the last American edition, published at Princeton, and this one
which we publish, are taken from the translation which was published in
London in 1723, and dedicated to Sir Robert Walpole, who was afterwards
Lord Orford, and who had the high honor of being prime minister of
George I and George II.
OF THE JESUITS
Chapter 1: How the
Society must behave themselves when they begin any new foundation.
V. At their first
settlement, let our members be cautious of purchasing lands; but if they
happen to buy such as are well situated, let this be done in the name of
some faithful and trusty friend. And that our poverty may be the more
colorable gloss of reality, let the purchases, adjacent to the places
wherein our colleges are founded, be assigned by the provincial to
colleges at a distance; by which means it will be impossible that
princes and magistrates can ever attain to a certain knowledge what the
revenues of the Society amount to.
VI. Let no places be
pitched upon by any of our members for founding a college but opulent
cities; the end of the Society being the imitation of our blessed
Saviour, who made his principal residence in the metropolis of Judea,
and only transiently visited the less remarkable places.
VII. Let the greatest
sums be always extorted from widows, by frequent remonstrations of our
VIII. In every
province, let none but the principal be fully apprised of the real value
of our revenues; and let what is contained in the treasury of Rome be
always kept as an inviolable secret.
Chapter II: In what
manner the Society must deport, that they may work themselves into, and
after that preserve a familiarity with princes, noblemen, and persons of
I. Princes, and
persons of distinction every where, must by all means be so managed that
we may have their ear, and that will easily secure their hearts; by
which way of proceeding, all persons will become our creatures, and no
one will dare to give the Society the least disquiet or opposition.
ecclesiastical persons gain a great footing in the favor of princes and
noblemen, by winking at their vices, and putting a favorable
construction on whatever they do amiss, experience convinces; and this
we may observe in their contracting of marriages with their near
relations and kindred, or the like. It must be our business to encourage
such, whose inclination lies this way, by leading them up in hopes, that
through our assistance they may easily obtain a dispensation from the
Pope; and no doubt he will readily grant it, if proper reason be urged,
paralleled cases produced, and opinions quoted which countenance such
actions, when the common good of mankind, and the greater advancement of
God’s glory, which are the only end and design of the society, are
pretended to be the sole motives to them.
V. Above all, due care
must be taken to curry favor with the minions and domestics of princes
and noblemen; whom by small presents, and many offices of piety, we may
so far byass, (bias) as by means of them to get a faithful intelligence
of the bent of their master’s humors and inclinations; thus will the
Society be better qualified to chime in with their tempers.
VII. Princesses and
ladies of quality are easily to be gained by the influence of the woman
of their bed-chamber; for which reason we must by all means pay
particular address to these, for thereby there will be no secrets in the
family but what we shall have fully disclosed to us.
XV. Finally,—Let all
with such artfulness gain the ascendant over princes, noblemen, and
magistrates of every place, that they may be ready at our beck, even to
sacrifice their nearest relations and most intimate friends, when we say
it is for our interest and advantage.
Chapter III: How
the Society must behave themselves towards those who are at the helm of
affairs, and others who, although they be not rich, are nothwithstanding
in a capacity of being otherwise serviceable.
I. All that has been
before mentioned, may, in a great measure, be applied to these; and we
must also be industrious to procure their favor against every one that
II. Their authority
and wisdom must be courted for obtaining several offices to be
discharged by us; we must also make a handle of their advice with
respect to the contempt of riches; though at the same time, if their
secrecy and faith may be depended on, we may privately make use of their
names in amassing temporal goods for the benefit of the Society.
Chapter IV: The
chief things to be recommended to preachers and confessors of noblemen.
VI. Immediately upon
the death of any person of post, let them take timely care to get some
friend of our Society preferred in his room; but this must be cloaked
with such cunning and management as to avoid giving the least suspicion
of our intending to usurp the prince’s authority; for this reason (as
has been already said) we ourselves must not appear in it, but make a
handle of the artifice of some faithful friends for effecting our
designs, whose power may screen them from the envy which might otherwise
fall heavier upon the Society.
Chapter V: What
kind of conduct must be observed towards such religious persons as are
employed in the same ecclesiastical functions with us.
Chapter VI: Of
proper methods for inducing rich widows to be liberal to our Society.
I. For the managing of
this affair, let such members only be chosen as are advanced in age, of
a lively complexion and agreeable conversation; let these frequently
visit such widows, and the minute they begin to show any affection
towards our order, then is the time to lay before them the good works
and merits of the society. If they seem kindly to give ear to this, and
begin to visit our churches, we must by all means take care to provide
them confessors by whom they may be well admonished, especially to a
constant perseverance in their state of widowhood, and this, by
enumerating and praising the advantages and felicity of a single life:
and let them pawn their faiths, and themselves too, as a security that a
firm continuance in such a pious resolution will infallibly purchase an
eternal merit, and prove a most effectual means of escaping the
otherwise certain pains of purgatory.
IV. Care must be taken
to remove such servants particularly as do not keep a good understanding
with the Society; but let this be done by little and little; and when we
have managed to work them out, let such be recommended as already are,
or willingly would become our creatures; thus shall we dive into every
secret, and have a finger in every affair transacted in the family.
Chapter VII: How
such widows are to be secured, and in what manner their effects are to
be disposed of.
I. They are
perpetually to be pressed to a perseverance in their devotion and good
works, in such manner, that no week pass in which they do not, of their
own accord, lay somewhat apart out of their abundance for the honor of
Christ, the blessed Virgin, or their patron saint; and let them dispose
of it in relief of the poor, or in beautifying of churches, till they
are entirely stripped of their superfluous stores and unnecessary
XIII. Let the
confessors take diligent care to prevent such widows as are their
penitents, from visiting ecclesiastics of other orders, or entering into
familiarity with them, under any pretence whatsoever; for which end, let
them, at proper opportunities, cry up the Society as infinitely superior
to all other orders; of the greatest service in the church of God, and
of greater authority with the Pope, and all princes; and that it is the
most perfect in itself, in that it discards all persons offensive or
unqualified, from its community, and therefore is purified from that
scum and dregs with which these monks are infected, who, generally
speaking, are a set of men unlearned, stupid, and slothful, negligent of
their duty, and slaves to their bellies.
XIV. Let the
confessors propose to them, and endeavor to persuade them to pay small
pensions and contributions towards the yearly support of colleges and
professed houses, but especially of the professed house at Rome; not let
them forget the ornaments of churches, tapers, wine, and things
necessary in the celebration of the sacrifice of mass.
XV. If any widow does
in her life-time make over her whole estate to the Society; whenever
opportunity offers, but especially when she is seized with sickness, or
in danger of life, let some take care to represent to her the poverty of
the greatest number of our colleges, whereof many just erected have
hardly as yet any foundation; engage her, by a winning behavior and
inducing arguments, to such a liberality as (you must persuade her) will
lay a certain foundation for her eternal happiness.
XVI. The same art must
be used with princes and other benefactors; for they must be wrought up
to a belief, that these are the only acts which will perpetuate their
memories in this world, and secure them eternal glory in the next.
Chapter VIII: How
widows are to be treated, that they may embrace religion, or a devoted
Chapter IX: Of
increasing the revenues of our Colleges.
XV. Let the confessors
be constant in visiting the sick, but especially such as are thought to
be in danger; and that the ecclesiastics and members of other orders may
be discarded with a good pretence, let the superiors take care that when
the confessor is obliged to withdraw, others may immediately succeed,
and keep up the sick person in his good resolutions. At this time it may
be advisable to move him by apprehensions of hell, and at least of
purgatory; and tell him, that as fire is quenched by water, so sin is
extinguished by acts of charity; and that alms can never be better
bestowed than for the nourishment and support of such who by their
calling profess a desire to promote the salvation of their neighbor.
XVI. Lastly, let the
women who complain of the vices of ill-humor of their husbands, be
instructed secretly to withdraw a sum of money, that by making an
offering thereof to God, they may expiate the crimes of their sinful
help-mates, and secure a pardon for them.
Chapter X. Of the
private rigor of discipline in the Society.
Chapter XI. How our
members are unanimously to behave towards those who are expelled from
I. Since those that
are dismissed, do frequently very much prejudice the Society by
divulging such secrets as they have been privy to; their attempts must
therefore be obviated in the following manner. Let them be prevailed
upon, before they are dismissed, to give it under their hands, and swear
that they never will, directly or indirectly, either write or speak any
thing to the disadvantage of the Order; and let the superiors keep upon
record the evil inclinations, failings and vices, which they, according
to the custom of the Society, for discharge of their consciences,
formerly confessed: this, if ever they give us occasion, may be produced
by the Society, to the nobility and prelates, as a very good handle to
prevent their promotion.
VIII. Let the
misfortunes, and unlucky accidents which happen to them, be immediately
published; but with entreaties for the prayers of good Christians, that
the world may not think we are hurried away by passion: but, among our
members, let these things, by all means, be represented in the blackest
colors, that the rest may be the better secured.
Chapter XII. Who
should be kept, and favored in the Society.
Chapter XIII. How
to pick out young men to be admitted into the Society, and in what
manner to retain them.
V. Let them be
allured, by little presents, and indulgence of liberties agreeable to
their age; and, above all, let their affections be warmed with spiritual
VI. Let it be
inculcated, that their being chosen out of such a number, rather than
any of their fellow-collegiates, is a most pregnant instance of divine
VII. On other
occasions, but especially in exhortations, let them be terrified with
denunciations of eternal punishment, unless they accept of the heavenly
VIII. The more
earnestly they desire admission into our Society, the longer let the
grant of such favor be deferred, provided at the same time they seem
steadfast in their resolution; but if their minds appear to be wavering,
let all proper methods be used for the immediate firing of them.
Chapter XIV. Of
reserved cases, and causes of dismission from the Society.
Chapter XV. Of our
conduct towards nuns and female devotees.
[It is noted in the
pre-publication copy of Vatican Assassins from which these
excerpts are being extracted that one of the pages is missing from this
section of the instructions.]
Chapter XVII. Of
the methods of advancing the Society.
I. Let our members
chiefly endeavor at this, always to act with humanity, even in things of
trifling moment; or at least to have the outward appearance of doing so;
for by this means, whatever confusions may arise in the world, the
Society of necessity will always increase and maintain its ground.
VII. The favor of the
nobility and superior clergy, once got, our next aim must be to draw all
cures and canonships into our possession, for the more complete
reformation of the clergy, who wheretofore lived under certain
regulation of their bishops, and made considerable advances towards
perfection. And lastly, let us aspire to abbacies and bishoprics, the
obtaining which, when vacancies happen, will very easily be effected,
considering the supineness and stupidity of the monks; for it would
entirely tend to the benefit of the church, that all bishoprics, and
even the apostolical see, should be hooked into our hands, especially
should his holiness ever become a temporal prince over all. Wherefore,
let no methods be untried, with cunning and privacy, by degrees, to
increase the worldly interests of the Society, and then, no doubt, a
golden age will go hand in hand with an universal and lasting peace, and
the divine blessing of consequence attend the catholic church.
VIII. But if our hopes
in this should be blasted, and since offences of necessity will come,
our political schemes must be cunningly varied, according to the
different posture of the times; and princes, our intimates, whom we can
influence to follow our councils, must be pushed on to embroil
themselves in vigorous wars one with another, to the end, our Society
(as promoters of the universal good of the world,) may on all hands be
solicited to contribute its assistance, and always employed in being
mediators of public dissensions; by this means the chief benefices and
preferments in the church will, of course be given to us by way of
compensation for our services.
IX. Finally, the
Society must endeavor to effect this at least, that having got the favor
and authority of princes, those who do not love them at least fear them.
The Society of Jesus
was thenceforth recognized as the chief opposing force of Protestantism.
The Order became dominant in determining the plans and policy of the
Rowish Church. The brotherhood grew and flourished. It planted its
chapters first in France, Italy and Spain, and then in all civilized
lands. The success of the Order was phenomenal. It became a power in the
world. It sent out its representatives to every quarter of the globe.
Its solitary apostles were seen shadowing the thrones of Europe. They
sought, by every means known to human ingenuity, to establish and
confirm the tottering fabric of Rome, and to undermine the rising fabric
of Protestantism. They penetrated to the Indus and the Ganges. They
traversed the deserts of Thibet, and said, "Here am I," in the streets
of Peking. They looked down into the silver mines of Peru, and knelt in
prayer on the shores of Lake Superior. To know all secrets, fathom all
design, penetrate all intrigues, prevail in all counsels, rise above all
diplomacy, and master the human race, — such was their purpose and
ambition. They wound about human society in every part of the habitable
earth, the noiseless creepers of their ever-growing plot to retake the
world for the Church, and to subdue and conquer and extinguish the last
remnant of opposition to her dominion from shore to shore, from the
rivers to the ends of the earth." [Ridpath’s Universal History,
John Clarke Ridpath, 1899]
The Jesuits are the
true authors of socialist-communism. The economic system of the Dark
Ages was feudalism consisting of the few rich landowners and the many
poor peasants. It was a sin to make a profit by anyone other than the
feudal lords. Thus, if the world is to be returned to the Dark Ages, the
Protestant middle class must be destroyed. Socialist-communism
accomplishes this, having yielded its bitter fruit in both Great Britain
and the United States. The great deception is that the Jews are the
authors of communism. (After all, is not Zionism Jewish communism?) The
facts are that the Jesuits used their Masonic Jews to introduce it in
1848 and again in 1917 with the Bolshevik Revolution.
The Jesuits then moved
their Shriner Freemason FDR to recognize Russia’s bloody government in
1933. The Jesuits then financed Russian communism with their Knights of
Malta on Wall Street. This enabled Joseph Stalin to carry out the purges
of the Thirties.
Having deceived the
world into believing communism was of Jewish origin, the Jesuits then
used Hitler to implement "the Final Solution to the Jewish
Question"—pursuant to the evil Council of Trent. The result was the mass
murder of European and Russian Jewry at the hands of the
At the close of the
Second Thirty Years War (1945) the Jesuits, with their Vatican Ratline,
helped top Nazis to escape to South America. And where in South America?
To the old dominion where socialist-communism had been perfected by the
Jesuit fathers—to the nation of Paraguay.
The Jesuits entered
Paraguay in the early 1600s, sent by the kings of Spain and Portugal.
They established their supremacy over the natives called "Guarani
Indians" and did not allow them to mix with the Spanish or Portuguese.
It was among this people that the Jesuits established their communes
THE JESUITS —
The Jesuits, now
formally suppressed by the Pope, were allied with Frederick the Great of
Prussia and Catherine of Russia. The Jesuit General was in control of
Scottish Rite Freemasonry and now sought an alliance with the Masonic
House of Rothschild in England. To accomplish this he chose a Jesuit who
was Jewish by race—Adam Weishaupt. Weishaupt was a brilliant instructor
of Canon Law—the evil Council of Trent—at a Jesuit university in
Bavaria. We read:
"From the Jesuit
College of Ingolstadt is said to have issued the sect known as ‘the
Illuminati of Bavaria’ founded by Adam Weishaupt. Its nominal founder,
however, seems to have played a subordinate though conspicuous role in
the organization of this sect." [Occult Theocracy, Lady Queenborough,
originally published in 1933]
On May 1, 1776, the
Order of the Illuminati was officially founded in the old Jesuit
stronghold of Bavaria. The Company would now use the Jewish House of
Rothschild to finance the French Revolution and the rise of Napoleon the
Freemason with his Jesuit-trained advisor, Abbe Sieyes. In spite of the
historical writings of the Jesuit Abbe Barruel, who blamed the
Rothschilds and Freemasonry for the Revolution, it was the Society of
Jesus that used these very tools to carry out the Revolution and punish
the monarchs who dared to expel the Jesuits from their dominions. The
Jesuits, having been expelled from the Spanish Empire, found refuge in
Corsica. From there they raised up their great avenger, Napoleon
Lately, it was George
Washington who was so beloved by France’s General Lafayette. During the
Revolution our great chieftain took the "boy General" under his wing for
which cause the Frenchman named his eldest son, George Washington
Lafayette. With this same endearing love the Roman Catholic Lafayette
"It is my opinion that
if the liberties of this country, the United States of America, are
destroyed, it will be by the subtlety of the Roman Catholic Jesuit
priests, for they are the most crafty, dangerous enemies of civil and
religious liberty. They have instigated most of the wars of Europe."
captured by the English and banished to the island of St. Helena. There,
his Memoirs were written which accurately described his masters,
"The Jesuits are a
military organization, not a religious order. There chief is a general
of an army, not the mere father abbot of a monastery. And the aim of
this organization is: POWER. Power in its most despotic exercise.
Absolute power, universal power, power to control the world by the
volition of a single man. Jesuitism is the most absolute of despotisms:
and at the same time the greatest and most enormous of abuses....
"The general of the
Jesuits insists on being master, sovereign, over the sovereign. Wherever
the Jesuits are admitted they will be masters, cost what it may. Their
society is by nature dictatorial, and therefore it is the irreconcilable
enemy of all constituted authority. Every act, every crime, however
atrocious, is a meritorious work, if committed for the interest of the
Society of the Jesuits, or by the order of the general." [Fifty Years
In The Church Of Rome, Charles Chiniquy, 1968, reprinted from the
1886 edition, quoting Memorial Of The Captivity Of Napolean At St.
Helena, General Montholon]
The Knights of Malta
and the Jesuits work together!
(Truth seeker, this
may seem irrelevant now, but it is important for you to be aware of this
connection. As we shall see, the Knights financed Lenin and Hitler from
Wall Street, also using their Federal Reserve Bank headed by Masonic
Jews, Warburg in particular.) The Knights negotiated the Concordat (a
Papal treaty) between the Pope and Hitler in the person of Franz Von
Papen. They also helped top Nazis to escape to North and South America
after World War II in the persons of James Angleton and Argentina’s
President Juan Peron.
In America, the
Knights, with their OSS, later the CIA, were behind "Operation
Paperclip". After World War II, top Nazis and scientists were illegally
secreted into the United States. Many were placed in the top-secret
military installation in Tonapah, Nevada known as "Area 51". The
perfection of the Nazis’ anti-gravity aircraft (flying saucers) was to
be completed there, among other secret technologies. "Operation
Paperclip" was overseen by America’s most powerful Knight of Malta, J.
Peter Grace. J. Peter Grace was subject to the Jesuit-trained Archbishop
Spellman, as the American headquarters for the Knights was and is St.
Patrick’s Cathedral in New York.
1816 – JOHN
Our founding Fathers
knew of the Jesuit intrigue directed at the new Protestant Republic of
these United States of America. In 1816, John Adams wrote to President
"Shall we not have
regular swarms of them here, in as many disguises as only a king of the
gypsies can assume, dressed as painters, publishers, writers, and
schoolmasters? If ever there was a body of men who merited eternal
damnation on Earth and in Hell it is this Society of Loyola’s." [The
New Jesuits, George Riemer, 1971]
A personal friend of
Professor Morse believed his warning of this Jesuit conspiracy. He was
President Abraham Lincoln. We read:
"The Protestants of
both the North and South would surely unite to exterminate the priests
and the Jesuits, if they could learn how the priests, the nuns, and the
monks, which daily land on our shores, under the pretext of preaching
their religion...are nothing else but the emissaries of the Pope, of
Napoleon III, and the other despots of Europe, to undermine our
institutions, alienate the hearts of our people from our Constitution,
and our laws, destroy our schools, and prepare a reign of anarchy here
as they have done in Ireland, in Mexico, in Spain, and wherever there
are any people who want to be free." [Fifty Years In The Church Of
Rome, Charles Chiniquy, 1968, reprinted from the 1886 edition]
The Jesuits —
This new nation would
be a centralized republic with the President exercising powers of an
absolute monarch. The old Federal Republic of Washington would be
converted into a huge centralized Empire, with the ten planks of the
Masonic Communist Manifesto replacing the Ten Commandments
In order to accomplish
this, the Constitution had to be amended—"by hook or by crook".
It would be amended in accordance with the Masonic cry of both French
Revolutions. "Liberty" would be the Thirteenth Amendment.
"Equality" would be the Fourteenth Amendment. "Fraternity" would
be the Fifteenth Amendment. We now will examine the Fourteenth
Amendment, as it was the coup d’etat.
OF PRESIDENT LINCOLN
Even thought he acted
the tyrant in keeping Maryland from seceding and raised the Army of the
Potomac to "put down the rebellion", there is evidence that he had a
change of heart. Accordingly to many, Lincoln was converted to Christ
after viewing the battlefield at Gettysburg. He later joined the
Presbyterian Church in Washington and had several spiritual
conversations with his close friend and converted priest, Charles
Chiniquy. We read:
"I will repeat to you
what I said at Urbana, when for the first time you told me your fears
lest I would be assassinated by the Jesuits: Man must not care where and
when he will die, provided he dies at the post of honor and duty. But I
may add, today, that I have a presentiment that God will call me to Him
through the hand of an assassin. Let His will, and not mine, be done!
The Pope and the Jesuits, with their infernal Inquisition, are the only
organized powers in the world which have recourse to the dagger of the
assassin to murder those whom they cannot convince with their arguments
or conquer with the sword.... It seems to me that the Lord wants today,
as He wanted in the days of Moses, another victim.... I cannot conceal
from you that my impression is that I am that victim. So many plots have
already been made against my life, that it is a real miracle that they
have failed, when we consider that the great majority of them were in
the hands of skillful Roman Catholic murderers, evidently trained by
Jesuits. But can we expect that God will make a perpetual miracle to
save my life? I believe not. The Jesuits are so expert in those deeds of
blood, that Henry IV said that it was impossible to escape them, and he
became their victim, though he did all that could be done to protect
himself. My escape from their hands, since the letter of the Pope to
Jeff Davis has sharpened a million daggers to pierce my breast, would be
more than a miracle." [Fifty Years In The Church Of Rome, Charles
Chiniquy, 1958, originally published in 1886]
Of the Jesuit hand in
Lincoln’s murder we read:
"I feel safe in
stating that nowhere else can be found in one book the connected
presentation of the story leading up to the death of Abraham Lincoln,
which was instigated by the "black" pope, the General of the Jesuit
Order, camouflaged by the "white" pope, Pius IX, aided, abetted and
financed by other "Divine Righters" of Europe, and finally consummated
by the Roman Hierarchy and their paid agents in this country and French
Canada on "Good Friday" night, April 14, 1865, at Ford’s Theatre,
Washington, D.C." [The Suppressed Truth About The Assassination Of
Abraham Lincoln, Burke McCarty, 1973, originally published in 1924]
THE JESUITS —
The Great and Terrible
Second Thirty Years’ War was now over. Europe, Russia, North Africa,
China, and Japan were "a universal wreck" thanks to the Company of
Jesus. Millions of "heretics" had been "extirpated" pursuant to the
Jesuit Oath and the Council of Trent. Unlike the Treaty of
Westphalia ending the First Thirty Years’ War, the agents of the Jesuits
controlled the negotiations at Yalta and Potsdam ending the second
Thirty Years’ War.
It was time to apply
the Jesuits’ Hegelian Dialectic worldwide. It would be known as "the
Cold War". The thesis and antithesis would be "the Free World in the
West" verses "the Communist Block in the East". The American Empire
would head the West, and the Russian Empire would lead the East. Both
sides would be financed by the Jesuits’ International Banking Cartel
centered in London and New York—the Federal Reserve and Chase-Manhattan
Banks in particular.
The synthesis would be
the destruction of the American Empire through the so-called "ending of
the Cold War". The illusion of ending the Cold War would legally enable
Rome’s Corporate Monopolies, federated together in New York City under
the leadership of the Council on Foreign Relations, to give Russia and
China high technology and financial backing. The giving of these
necessities would perfect the War Machines of both economically
communist and politically fascist giants for the purpose of invading
North America, it containing the majority of the world’s
Protestants, Baptists, and Jews. It is for these reasons that the
financial might of Hong Kong was given to Red China, along with an
American Naval Base in Long Beach, California. It is for these reasons
that the Panama Canal, built with American blood, sweat, tears and
Yellow Fever, was given away to Panama to be manned by Chinese soldiers
imperiling the American navy. It is for these reasons that the Jesuits
in control of Washington have established nationwide gun registration
for the purpose of nationwide gun confiscation just as they did
in Hitler’s Germany. It is for these reasons that the Jesuits, with
their international corporations managed by the Knights of Malta, have
financed and continue to build both the Russian and Chinese War
Machines, while influencing American Presidents to close down scores of
military installations across the country. These facts spell
invasion-massive invasion by millions of foreign soldiers, with no God and no mercy.
And if the Jesuits can manage to blow-up the Dome of the Rock in
Jerusalem and blame the American Empire for it, the Arabs will declare a
holy war against "the great Satan". The private wealth of Americans
using International Business Corporations with bank accounts in the
Bahamas will be seized just as they were in Castro’s Cuba. (The Knights
have moved all their wealth into European banks denominated in Franks
and Marks as well as Eurodollars, thereby escaping the coming American
Meanwhile, as the
Jesuits, with their American dictator’s internal police (FEMA) and
foreign invaders, are "extirpating" "the execrable race" of American
"heretics" and "liberals", the European nations will be driven to lay
down their historic differences and unify.
This unification will
restore the Holy Roman Empire, for which reason the Jesuits are rapidly
rebuilding Rome. When the smoke clears, China will control the East,
Russia will control the North, and a unified R.C. [Roman Catholic]
Europe will control the West. The Pope’s International Intelligence
Community will see to it that Jerusalem is declared an international
city with Solomon’s rebuilt Temple in her midst. World government will
ensue and the Jesuits’ "blessed despotism" of the Dark Ages will have
arrived, with the Pope being the Universal Despot of the World, so
appropriately described in the Protocols Of The Elders Of Zion,
while being the World Authority of The Documents Of Vatican II.
The Jesuits —
ASSASSINATION PRESIDENT KENNEDY
"It is of faith that
the Pope has the right of deposing heretical and rebel Kings.
Monarchs so deposed by the Pope are converted into notorious tyrants
and may be killed by the first who can reach them.
"If the public cause
cannot meet with its defense in the death of a tyrant, it is lawful for
the first who arrives, to assassinate him." [Defensio Didei,
Jesuit Suarez, Book VI. C 4, Nos. 13, 14]
Freed remembers what
apparently passes for polite conversation when men such as Colby and
Cline get together. "It was quite bizzare" Freed said, "for the
subject they chose was, ‘When is it acceptable to assassinate a head of
state?’ Colby presented what he said was a theological and
philosophically sound approach. The Catholic Church, he said, had long
since wrestled with this question and had, to Colby’s mind, emerged with
a sound concept: "It is acceptable" he said, "to assassinate a tyrant".[Plausible
Denial, Mark Lane, 1991, p. 85]
"A conspiracy is
rarely, if ever, proved by positive testimony. When a crime of high
magnitude is about to be perpetrated by a combination of individuals,
they do not act openly, but covertly and secretly. The purpose formed is
known only to those who enter into it. Unless one of the original
conspirators betray his companions and give evidence against them, their
guilt can be proved only by circumstantial evidence...and circumstances
can not lie." [Special Judge Advocate John A. Bingham, quoted in The
Trial Of The Conspirators, Washington, 1865]
This chapter will
examine the forest, not the trees. The hundreds of works covering the
assassination can be reduced to a few simple facts. These facts viewed
in the context of the previous chapters lead us to the "Lion" in his
"Den of Iniquity" that had the power to execute Kennedy’s murder and
successfully cover it up. That Lion was the Cardinal of New York and his
Den of Iniquity was St. Patricks’ Cathedral, "the Little Vatican", and
home base of the American Branch of the Knights of Malta. From the death
of Cardinal Spellman in 1967 until now (1999), the succeeding "Lions"
having kept the assassination covered-up were: Cardinal Cooke (himself a
Knight of Malta) and Cardinal O’Connor, a former Navy Chaplain during
Spellman’s Vietnam War, and presently the Archbishop of New York.
Knowing that President
Kennedy was not going to escalate the Vietnam War, the Intelligence
Community began to prepare for his assassination. Roman Catholic Lee
Oswald was chosen to be a patsy.... As a CIA agent, he had been sent to
Soviet Russia by Allen Dulles in 1959, supposedly as a defector. Knowing
that the CIA (OSS) and the KGB (NKVD) had worked together during WW-II,
Oswald apparently took a vacation for nearly two years. During that time
he married a Russian whose uncle was a Colonel in the KGB.
When he returned to
the American Empire in 1962, he associated with CIA agents Howard Hunt,
Frank Sturgis, David Ferrie, Guy Banister, Count George DeMohrenschildt,
and Clay Shaw. Oswald was CIA, and related to a Jesuit. Emannuel
Josephson tells us:
"An interesting angle
is presented by the Lee Oswald involvement. His cousin is reported to be
a Jesuit priest. And it is a matter of record that Lee Oswald was
invited to address the Jesuit college in Springhill, Alabama, on the
subject of his activities, two weeks before the Kennedy Assassination.
The Jesuit involvement closely parallels that in the Lincoln
Assassination." [The Federal Reserve Conspiracy And Rockefellers,
Emanuel M. Josephson, 1968]
Jim Garrison clearly
proved the CIA was involved in the assassination through Clay Shaw. He
Shaw’s extensive international role as an employee of the CIA. Shaw’s
secret life as an Agency man in Rome, trying to bring Fascism back to
Italy, was exposed in articles in the Italian press.... To me among the
most significant revelations were...the confirmation by both Victor
Marchetti and Richard Helms that Clay Shaw had been an agent of the
Central Intelligence Agency." [On The Trail Of The Assassins, Jim
And who was the
Director of the CIA in 1963? It was Knight of Malta John McCone. Prior
to that McCone had been a defense contractor who had formally headed the
Atomic Energy Commission. Later in 1970, he was a board member of ITT
while remaining a CIA consultant. Marchetti tells us:
"[The] ITT board
member who later admitted to a Senate investigative committee that he
had played the key role in bringing together CIA and ITT officials was
John McCone, director of the CIA during the Kennedy administration and,
in 1970, a CIA consultant." [The CIA And The Cult Of Intelligence,
Victor Marchetti, 1975]
soldier, John McCone, Director of the CIA, participated in the Kennedy
Jim Garrison and
others have proved that the FBI was also involved in the assassination.
"I already had
concluded that parts of the local Dallas law enforcement establishment
were probably implicated in the assassination or its cover-up. But now I
saw that the highly respected FBI was implicated as well." [On The
Trail Of The Assassins, Jim Garrison, 1991]
Cardinal Spellman had
two agents in the FBI. The first was the Shriner Freemason and
brother-Cold Warrior, J. Edgar Hoover. According to Loftus, Hoover had
cooperated with the Vatican Ratlines resettling Nazi war criminals in
the Northeast. Why would he not cooperate with Spellman now? How could
Spellman’s key man in the FBI was Knight of Malta, Cartha DeLoach. As
the third in command, DeLoach was in a position to supervise the
assassination and suppress evidence. Garrison proved DeLoach did in fact
assassination we see a telling relationship between Johnson and DeLoach.
DeLoach was known as Johnson’s man in the FBI and the President would
call him any time of the day. Curt Gentry writes:
couldn’t sleep. Late at night he had his aide, Marvin Watson, telehone
the DeLoach bedroom. The president had suddenly become convinced that
the murder of his predecessor had been a conspiracy and wanted more
information from the FBI." [J. Edgar Hoover: The Man And The Secrets,
Curt Gentry, 1991]
This is the Cartha
DeLoach who had signed a five-year contract with Lee Iacocca’s Ford
Mercury in connection with the series, "The FBI". Both DeLoach and
Iacocca were Knights of Malta, subject to Cardinal Spellman during the
Kennedy assassination. Later DeLoach went on to be a director of
PepsiCo. And according to Col. Prouty, that company also participated in
Kennedy’s assassination. We read:
"Nixon was in Dallas
with a top executive of the Pepsi-Cola Company, Mr. Harvey Russel, the
general counsel. Nixon was a legal counsel to that corporation. That top
executive’s son has told of Nixon’s presence in Dallas at the time of
the assassination, and Russell has confirmed the accuracy of his son’s
account. Later, sometime after the shooting, Nixon was driven to the
Dallas airport by a Mr. DeLuca, also an official of the Pepsi-Cola
Company. In addition, the son of another Pepsi-Cola executive was in
Dallas at that time and had dinner with Jack Ruby, Oswald’s killer, the
night before JFK was murdered." [JFK: The CIA, Vietnam, And The Plot
To Assassinate John F. Kennedy, Col. L. Fletcher Prouty, 1992]
DeLoach, Iacocca, and
the Knights of Pepsi, now PepsiCo, all worked together.
At the time of the
assassination in Dallas, the Catholic priest, Oscar Shubert, was sent
from Holy Trinity Catholic Church in Dallas to administer "Last Rites"
for the President. Knowing that Kennedy’s wounds were wounds of entry,
he reported everything to his superior. Shubert’s superior was the
Bishop of Dallas, then The Most Reverend Thomas Kiely Gorman, DD.
According to Martin Lee’s article entitled "Who Are The Knights Of
Malta?" appearing in the October 14, 1983 edition of the National
Catholic Reporter, Thomas K. Gorman was a Knight of Malta. Being a
brother Knight he reported directly to Cardinal Spellman, and kept him
appraised of what was happening in Dallas.
At the time of the
assassination in Dallas, roughly 12:30 P.M. in the afternoon, all the
telephones went dead in Washington, D.C. for about 30 minutes. How could
this have happened? Someone at ITT had to be responsible, as it served
the Washington area. In 1963, one of the VIPs of ITT was Francis D.
Flanagan. You guessed it. Flanagan was a Knight. Later, McCone, with his
brother knights, coordinated a deal between the CIA and ITT to better
The author knows there
were several Knights of Columbus involved in the Kennedy assassination.
They were working for the FBI in particular. But the only notable Knight
who was involved was Senator Edward Kennedy in that, through his
silence, he was consenting to his brother’s murder. Maybe this is what
has driven the perpetual Senator from Massachusetts to his ruined
alcoholic life. Let us take a few moments to pray for the Senator that
he might have a change of heart, that he would tell all, and that we
might protect him. For he too was subject to the power of Cardinal
Lastly we know that
the Mafia was involved in the Kennedy assassination. The Mafia, CIA,
FBI, and Office of Naval Intelligence has been working together
throughout World War II. Jack Ruby was a mafioso and David E. Scheim
makes it perfectly clear in his Contract On America that the Mob
had at least two motives: the Kennedy brothers assault on Organized
Crime and the loss of the Mob’s gambling paradise in Cuba.
But those were not the
reasons. The Mafia Dons were promised that they would make more money
than Havana could ever produce, through the explosion of the
international drug trade made possible by the Vietnam War. If they
helped eliminate Kennedy, Johnson would escalate the war and, thereby,
the drug trade. The CIA would bring the drugs in from the Golden
Triangle, distribute them to the Mafia families, and both would profit.
More importantly, the
Mafia’s Commission had a favor to repay. Cardinal Spellman, through FDR,
had arranged the release of "Lucky" Luciano because of "Operation
Underworld" mentioned in the previous chapter. Now the Cardinal needed a
favor. If refused, Spellman could use the entire intelligence community
which he had helped to organize, to eliminate any mob boss. If agreed
to, new gambling centers would open up, Atlantic City in particular.
Clearly, if the
President was removed, everybody would acquire more power and wealth,
the intelligence community would become more absolute, and the Cardinal
would be even more respected by his peers in Rome. The rest is history.
Later, in 1964, for
the first time in history, the Pope of Rome set foot in Fourteenth
Amendment America. Cardinal Spellman had performed well and was
rewarded by a visit from his Master, fellow Cold Warrior and Vatican
Ratline handler, Cardinal Montini, who was now Pope Paul VI.
There is yet another
reason for the removal of President Kennedy. He wanted to arm Israel.
"In September 1962
Kennedy decided to supply Israel with defensive ground-to-air missiles
capable of stopping aircraft, but not the Egyptian offensive missiles.
It was the first arms sale by the U.S. Government to Israel.... Kennedy
promised the Israelis that as soon as the 1964 election was over, he
would break the CIA ‘into a thousand pieces and scatter it to the
winds’.... With Kennedy’s assassination in November 1963, the Israelis
lost the best friend they had in the White House since Truman departed."
[The Secret War Against The Jews, John Loftus, 1994]
And why did the
Vatican’s Jesuits not want any arms sales to Israel at this time? Why
did the Jesuit-controlled President Johnson turn his back as the
Egyptian army moved up through the Sinai desert to prepare its assault
on Israel in 1967? Because the attack upon Israel had to be provoked.
That attack was provoked by the Jesuits’ International Intelligence
Community through Egypt falsely perceiving the weakness of the Israeli
army and the supposed abandonment of Israel by the American Empire.
The six-day war,
engineered by Knight of Malta James Angleton, had one primary purpose:
the taking of Jesusalem along with the Temple Mount. The apparent lack
of military hardware on the part of Israel provoked the planned attack
by Egypt. Therefore, Israel launched a preemptive strike and, in six
days, the holy city was in the hands of Rome’s Zionist government.
Had Kennedy armed
Israel, the Egyptians would never have been emboldened to maneuver for
war. With no provoked war, there would have been no Israeli attack. With
no Israeli attack, Jerusalem would never have been taken by the
Zionists, controlled by the Jesuits’ Mossad. With Jerusalem in Arab
hands, the Zionists could never rebuild Solomon’s Temple unbeknown to
them for the Jesuits’ "infallible" Pope "Who opposeth and exalted
himself above all that is called God, or that is worshiped; so he is God
sitteth in the temple of God [Solomon’s rebuilt temple], showing himself
that he is God." [II Thes 2:4]
It is safe to say that
the Jesuit General, using the Pope with his most powerful Cardinal in
the American Empire, assassinated President John F. Kennedy in 1963.
For it was Cardinal
Spellman, "the American Pope" in command of his soldiers, the Knights of
Malta, who oversaw the assassination.
And it was the Knights
of Malta, using the Central Intelligence Agency, who aided in the actual
assassination of the President. Those Knights were: CIA Director, John
McCone, CIA officers William F. Buckley, and Henry Luce.
In 1963, both William
F. Buckley and Henry Luce were personal friends of CIA agent Howard
Hunt. We read from Mark Lane’s Plausible Denial on page 270,
concerning Time and Life magazines, of which Henry Luce
was the owner:
"I (Howard Hunt) had
them typed up on a typewriter (fabricated official cables), and they
were xeroxed, and the xeroxes were eventually shown to a person of Mr.
(Charles) Colson’s confidence, and in Time and Life."
Hunt, after swearing that he had never been involved in a disinformation
effort to embarrass Kennedy, had now testified that he had merely sought
to doctor and create evidence to prove that Kennedy was a murderer.
Again in Plausible
Denial we read of Hunt’s connection with pompous William F. Buckley,
Jr. on page 207:
"(G. Gordon) Liddy
completed his testimony perfectly, stating that while he no longer
associated with Hunt, he did see him last, he recalled, when both men
demonstrated their support for another former CIA officer, William F.
Buckley, as Buckley celebrated the anniversary of his television show at
the New York Yacht Club."
Dear truth seeker,
Hunt was close to both powerhouses, Buckley and Luce. Hunt was also
working with two of his fellow criminals in the future Watergate
scandal, G. Gordon Liddy (Jesuit-trained) and Chuck Colson.
And in 1985, it was
Mark Lane who proved in Miami’s federal court that Hunt was in Dallas
the day President Kennedy was murdered. Therefore, the conclusion was
obvious. The CIA, with its agent, E. Howard Hunt, had killed the
President. In the words of the jury’s forewoman, Leslie Armstrong, found
on the inside cover and page 322 of Plausible Denial, we read:
"Mr. Lane was asking
us to do something very difficult. He was asking us to believe that John
Kennedy had been killed by our own government. When we examined the
evidence (for 65 minutes) we were compelled to conclude that the CIA had
indeed killed President Kennedy." Hunt had been part of it, and that
evidence, so painstakingly presented, should now be examined by the
relevant institutions of the United States Government, so that those
responsible for the assassination might be brought to justice.
No political event or circumstance can
be evaluated without the knowledge of the Vatican’s part in it. And no
significant world situation exists in which the Vatican does not play
an important explicit or implicit role. — Avro Manhattan, “Protestant”
Knight of Malta, English Historian and Agitator, 1960, The Vatican And
The Jesuits offer the world at large a system of
theology by which every law, Divine and human, may be broken with
impunity, and by which the very Bulls of Popes may be defied. It is a
ghastly religion; it is a religion to be abhorred by all honest and
honorable men. — M. F. Cusack, Converted Nun of Kenmare, 1896, The
The Jesuits laugh at us; and during their hilarity, the
rattlesnake is coiled at our feet, climbing to strike us in the heart.
— Edwin A. Sherman, American Shriner Freemason, Friend of Charles
Chiniquy, 1883, The Engineer Corps Of Hell.
You could call Eric Jon Phelps a controversial author. We
know him as a consummate researcher, a beloved friend, and a gentleman
who lives his truth. Our readers will know him best as my interviewee in
our now infamous May 2000 issue of The SPECTRUM—the issue that is known
far and wide as the "Black Pope" paper.
Eric is also the author of the blockbuster book VATICAN
ASSASSINS, an incredibly well researched historical manuscript which
shows the reader, in astonishing detail, where the TRUE diabolical power
and control of this planet resides—at least that controlling layer which
is in the physical dimension.
VATICAN ASSASSINS likewise acquaints the reader with a
number of priceless old documents and historical manuscripts that
“certain ones” have done their very best to remove from almost all of
the world’s library shelves. Most of these documents are so rare that
just getting these back into public access and circulation is a great
service to all students of history thirsty for The Truth.
There has been so much interest in what Eric has to say
that we decided to revisit a number of issues and ask him to answer some
dangling questions. After all, the kind of connections which Eric makes
are an entire level deeper than what we are used to hearing in the
“conspiracy theory” arena. Moreover, we have noted, with some degree of
surprise and “unveiling” over the past year or so, just who all have
come forward to attack Eric’s work—groundlessly and hysterically (but
never to his face). These ones know who they are and have, by their
unprofessional and irrational actions, convincingly revealed just who
they really work for, while pretending to be presenters of Truth!
While it was my intent to focus the majority of the
conversation on the present day, there were some unresolved issues from
the past that likewise required clarification. On June 18, 2001, I had
an opportunity to sit down with Eric Phelps, face-to-face, and prevail
upon him to answer a few key questions. Let’s see what he has to say.
Martin: Our last interview—the "Black Pope"issue
of The SPECTRUM—went around the world a few times. It’s also been on the
Internet for quite some time. The manuscript of VATICAN ASSASSINS has
been distributed, but still no book. What’s happening with the book? Why
is it taking so long to come out in book form?
Phelps: The reason why it has taken a year to
finalize the book is because there were several historical mistakes that
were corrected by some of the readers of the manuscripts, the first and
There was a Japanese individual named Toichi [Ryu] who
corrected me on some of the Japanese history regarding the Emperors and
the Shogans, for which I thanked him and made the necessary changes.
There were a few other similar changes that I had to make
with regard to dates, places, and some times; just a polishing-up of the
manuscript, so that it’s ready now.
We had one individual who was a Jesuit for 10 years. He
got out of the Jesuit Order. He read the manuscript. He greatly approved
of it. And he sent us a list of corrections, which we incorporated into
the manuscript. So, there have been many people who have added their
polishing touches to it, for which I am thankful.
[Editor’s note: Wisdom Books & Press (877) 280-2866 is
accepting advance orders for VATICAN ASSASSINS, the 700-page book, which
should be completed by the second or third week in July. The cost for
this huge volume is only $34.95, which includes a gift CD-ROM containing
13 rare books mostly “missing” from the world’s library shelves.]
Martin: I would like to concentrate this
conversation largely on the present day. But, before we get to the
present, I would ask you to, once and for all, clarify something for our
readers who may be still confused about The Protocols Of The Learned
Elders Of Zion.
There have been many sources and many reciting's of The
Protocols. They’ve been called a fraud. They’ve been called a forgery,
which means that there was a document that preceded it that it had to be
based on. Everyone seems to point to the Jews, or the Khazars, as the
authors of The Protocols, and yet your research indicates otherwise.
Who, in your opinion, authored The Protocols Of The
Learned Elders Of Zion?
Phelps: Cardinal Bea was the confessor of Pope
Pius XII (Hitler’s Pope), a very powerful Jesuit and Cardinal within the
Vatican. According to Alberto Rivera, when speaking with Cardinal Bea,
Cardinal Bea said to him that The Protocols were written by Jews loyal
to the Pope.
I do not believe Jews wrote The Protocols. I do not
believe Alberto Rivera was told the whole story, because he did not have
a “need to know”. Withholding information has always been standard
procedure for the Jesuits.
I believe men who were loyal to the Pope wrote The
Protocols, and the men who were loyal to the Pope who wrote The
Protocols were the Jesuits, according to Leo Lehmann—the ex-Irish
Catholic priest who became converted to Christ and set-up the mission
there in New York City, Converted Catholics For Christ. He said that the
Jesuits wrote The Protocols, and that this is no new attempt of
deception, based on their document that they wrote concerning their
attack on the Jansenists, which was called The Secrets Of The Elders Of
So, the Jesuits wrote The Protocols like they wrote The
Secrets Of The Elders Of Bourg-Fontaine, and the language of The
Protocols is identical to The Secret Meeting At Cheiri .
However, I have a quotation from a very brilliant and
Godly, born-again, Bible-believing, Irish Roman Catholic priest I
referred to a moment ago. He wrote a book entitled Behind The Dictators,
first written in 1942, and there were two editions after that. I have
the 1945 edition. Dr. Leo Lehmann says that the Jesuits wrote The
Protocols. But before I get into that, I would just like to read to you
who Dr. L. H. Lehmann was.
“He was born in Dublin, Ireland, and received his primary
education there from the nuns and Christian brothers. He began his study
for the priesthood at Mungret College, Limerick, and at All Hallows
College, Dublin. In 1918, he went to finish his theological studies at
the University of Propaganda Fide in Rome, where he was ordained a
priest in 1921. He later studied at New York University from which he
received the degree of M.A.
“After four years as a priest in Cape Town, South Africa,
Dr. Lehmann was recalled to Rome to continue negotiations at the Vatican
courts concerning a legal case in which he had been engaged, while a
student in Rome, on behalf of many American bishops and priests against
the Jesuits. He later returned to South Africa, but was transferred to
the United States in 1927 and appointed pastor in Gainesville, the
university city of Florida. Dr. Lehmann is now director of Christ’s
Mission in New York City and Editor-In-Chief of The Converted Catholic
So, here is a born-again, Bible-believing man who had
been an Irish priest, who had run-ins with the Jesuits, who knew EXACTLY
what they were all about. When you’re involved in litigation within the
Vatican, you know the law. And you know the history of who you are
Here is what he had to say about the origin of The
Protocols. This is found in his book, Behind The Dictators, on page 15:
“Although first published in Russia in 1903, The
Protocols Of [The Learned Elders Of] Zion had their origin in France and
date from the Dreyfus Affair, of which the Jesuits were the chief
instigators. They were planned also first to take effect in France, by
the overthrow of the ‘Judaic-Masonic’ government of the French Republic.
But the discovery of the gigantic fraud of Leo Taxil, who had been
openly supported by the Jesuits, the concluding of the Franco-Russian
alliance, along with the Vatican’s difficulties with the French
government at that time, made it more opportune to have them appear
first in Russia.
“These Protocols of supposedly Jewish leaders are not the
first documents of their kind fabricated by the Jesuits.
“For over a hundred years before these Protocols
appeared, the Jesuits had continued to make use of a similar fraud
called The Secrets Of The Elders Of Bourg-Fontaine against Jansenism—an
anti-Jesuit French Catholic movement among the secular clergy.”
Phelps: I might also add that the Jansenists were
what we would call, really, Catholic Calvinists. They believed in the
sovereignty of God. They believed in justification by faith. They
believed in many Biblical doctrines, and therefore the Jesuits hated
them and later got the Pope to issue a Bull against them.
The Jesuits so hated the Jansenists, of which Blaise
Pascal was one, that they concocted this document, The Secrets Of The
Elders Of Bourg-Fontaine, against them.
Martin: What year was this?
Phelps: This was in the 1600s, I believe, in France. It
may have been the late 1600s, because Blaise Pascal wrote his Provincial
Letters in the later 1600s.
[Editor’s note: Eric brings to our attention a VERY
interesting person here, much like the great Nikola Tesla of a few
hundred years later. Blaise Pascal, 1623-62, was a great mathematician,
physicist, theologian, and man-of-letters, born in Clermont-Ferrand,
France. In 1647 he invented a calculating machine, and later the
barometer, the hydraulic press, and the syringe. Until 1654 he spent his
time between mathematics (remember Pascal’s triangle and other
intriguing mathematical and geometric discoveries?) and the social round
in Paris, but a mystical experience that year led him to join his
sister, who was a member of the Jansenist convent at Port-Royal, where
he defended Jansenism against the Jesuits in Lettres Provinciales,
Now, I’ll go back to my reading:
“The analogy between the two forgeries is perfect—the
secret assemblage in the forest of Bourg-Fontaine; the plan of the
‘conspirators’ to destroy the Papacy and establish religious tolerance
among all nations; the alleged plot against Throne and Altar, and the
setting up of a world-government in opposition to the Catholic Church.
There is the same dramatization of the negative pole of the historic
evolution of the world, in order to bring out, by contrast, the positive
Christian [Catholic] pole, around which all conservative forces—the
monarchy, the aristocracy, the army, the clergy—must gather to save the
world from Satan’s onslaught.”
Phelps: Is this not identical to The Protocols?
Except in The Protocols, it’s Communism. Both documents want a world
government, under someone other than the Pope. So, it betrays the Jesuit
hand throughout, in The Protocols, based upon The Secrets Of The Elders
Of Bourge-Fontaine; and furthermore, after this document, The Secrets Of
the Elders of Bourge-Fontaine, the next major document that we have is
Leone’s The Jesuit Conspiracy—The Secret Plan Of The Order, which was
published in 1848.
In this document, Jesuit Leone was 19 years old and a
novitiate in Cheiri, Italy, where he, when he was snooping around in a
back room, became trapped when Jesuit General Roothaan and his
provincials came in another room and he listened to this conversation
between the General and his provincials—in the mid-1830s, around
1834—and while he was hiding, he was taking notes.
They betray that the Jesuit General was intent upon
setting-up a World Government by controlling the Roman Catholic
hierarchy, the Pope, all the monarchies, and thus all the governments of
the world. And that is in Leone’s great work, The Jesuit Conspiracy,
published in 1848.
It was published in several languages. It went all
throughout Europe, which contributed to the people rising-up against the
power of the Jesuits in 1848, with the Second French Revolution. But
that revolution was controlled, the leadership of it was controlled, and
the end result was more power for the Jesuit Order in Europe.
Martin: You mention that The Protocols were an
outgrowth of the Dreyfus Affair [1890s]. And prior to that we have the
Council of Trent [twenty-five sessions of the Council of Trent from
1545-1563]. Can you put this in perspective?
Phelps: Ok. The Jesuits were busy creating Jewish
hatred in Germany and in France in the late 1800s. There was a man
referred to in Ridpath’s Universal History Of the World—I only found
this here—he called his work “the solution to the Jewish question”.
Hitler came along, later, and had the FINAL solution to the Jewish
question. So, they were fomenting anti-Jewish hatred in Germany, and
they were fomenting anti-Jewish hatred in France.
Martin: Who are they?
Phelps: The Jesuits. The Jesuits were fomenting
this in both countries because, at this time, the Jesuits had been
expelled from Germany in 1872, and they had been expelled from France in
1880. So now they’re going to go after the Jews through their agents in
these two countries.
In France, they started the Dreyfus Affair, and that was
in the 1890s. The Dreyfus Affair had several purposes. It was to create
anti-Semitism—anti-Jewish hatred in France.
I hate to use the word anti-Semitism. There are many
Semites other than Jews. And it was also calculated to create war with
Germany, because Captain Dreyfus was accused of treason in handing
secrets over to the German government. It was all a frame.
He was completely framed. He was sent to Devil’s Island
for 10 years, and suffered the horrible tortures of Devil’s Island for
that period of time. And then, later, when he was brought back, he was
vindicated and found “not guilty”, and the Jesuits were blamed for
having done this. So this became universally known in France, which
ultimately caused the Jesuits to be expelled, again, in 1901.
The Dreyfus Affair is a major European conspiracy with
the Jesuit hand, against the Jews, attempting to foment a war between
France and Germany. Because, remember, the French hated the Germans as a
result of the trouncing that they got in the Franco-Prussian War of
1870. And they wanted vengeance for that.
So, we play on the people’s vengeance, create this issue
between Germany and France, we use the Jews to do it so we can get some
anti-Jewish fervor going, which ultimately manifests itself in 1942 with
the Vichy government in France, when they help the Nazis round-up all
the Jews in France and send them to Auschwitz.
And it’s at that time, in 1942, in the Petain, that the
Jesuits were formally readmitted into France. That’s the significance of
the Dreyfus Affair.
Martin: And what is the significance of the
Council of Trent in relation to all of these?
Phelps: The Council of Trent puts heretics—which
us Bible-believers are, all Protestants and all Jews—puts all of us
under more than 100 curses because of what we believe:
We believe in justification by faith.
“Accursed be all who believe in justification by faith.”
We believe that Baptism is simply an outward sign of
salvation, and that it is not necessary for salvation.
“Accursed be all those who believe that.”
We believe that, when we eat of the Lord’s supper, the
bread and the wine are NOT the literal body and blood of Christ, as the
Council of Trent teaches, therefore we are accursed because we do not
believe in transubstantiation.
And we also believe that man has a right to his own
judgment. He has a right to read the Bible and make his own decisions as
to what it means; that the Bible should be in the language of the
people, because this the foundation of freedom of conscience, freedom of
speech, and freedom of the press.
All of these things in the 4th session of the Council of
Trent are condemned, anybody who believes in: freedom of speech, and
freedom of conscience, and freedom of the press.
So, those maxims of the Council of Trent are brought into
The Protocols when The Protocols condemn freedom of conscience; they
condemn freedom of the press; they condemn national governments and
You see, Bible-believers, we believe in national
We do not believe in World Government.
We believe America should be governed by Americans.
We believe Japan should be governed by Japanese, etc.
We do not believe, we do not want, a European Union.
We do not want a combination of governments under
We believe in national sovereignties, which is the reason
why the South seceded and left the United States, because they wanted to
set-up their own national sovereignty; it was a Protestant maxim upon
which they acted.
Ok, so Trent effects The Protocols. Trent effects The
Secrets Of The Elders Of Bourge-Fontaine. Trent effects The Secret Plan,
written by Leone in 1848. And hence, now we have the doctrines of
Communism effecting Marx and his Communist Manifesto, because Marx was
tutored in the British Museum BY JESUITS.
Martin: Who was behind the Council of Trent, The
Secret Plan, etc. Who were the men behind these, historically?
Phelps: Well, Diego Laynez went on to be the
Jesuit General after Loyola; Laynez was the second Jesuit General. He
was the MASTER-MIND of the Council of Trent. Laynez was a Jesuit by
allegiance, and a Jew by race. This is very important. And it’s the
result of Laynez being a Jew, when this was brought to light in 1593,
that the Order passed a statute that NO JEW COULD EVER BE IN THE JESUIT
ORDER AGAIN. This is VERY important. This is why Weishaupt was not a
Jew. It was against the constitutions of the Order for a Jew to be in
Martin: And what relation does Weishaupt have to
all of this?
Phelps: Weishaupt was the promoter of the
Illuminati, with the House of Rothschild for the punishment of the
Catholic monarchs of Europe, and the Pope, for suppressing the Jesuit
So, Weishaupt did not act alone. Weishaupt was under the
supervision, at least initially, of Jesuit General Ricci, who died in
1775 in Italy. Weishaupt was under orders.
Martin: Who is Jesuit General Roothaan?
Phelps: Jesuit General Roothaan was the General of
the Society from the 1830s to the mid-1850s. Jesuit General Roothaan was
the one who oversaw The Secret Plan At Chieri, of which Leone overheard
and then wrote about.
Martin: So this is KEY to what we are talking
Phelps: Extremely key.
Martin: And who is Peter Beckx?
Phelps: Peter Beckx was the Jesuit General in the
late 1800s and early 1900s. He was the one who gave the order and
oversaw the sinking of the Titanic.
Martin: Let’s talk about that now. Why have you
drawn the historical conclusion that the Jesuits sank the Titanic?
Phelps: Because they benefited. And they were
present, on site, on the ship, prior to it’s sinking. When we have a
powerful organization that is working together, such as the Jesuit
Order, and the power that they had prior to their suppression, and that
they had never changed, and they are still working toward a World
Government under the Pope, we look for the Jesuit Order in these
national crises that arise—and in this issue, the Titanic.
We must ask the question: Even though we can’t place
where they are at the moment, did the Jesuit Order benefit from this?
And the answer is: Yes, they did.
They benefited because it paved the way for the
establishment of the Federal Reserve Bank, which they own and control,
by proxy, through the Knights of Malta, with their various trusts and so
on. They never own anything outright; they always own it through a
trusted third party.
How do we know that the Jesuits control the Federal
Reserve Bank? Because the Federal Reserve Bank was used to finance the
second “Thirty Years War”—from 1914 to 1945—in which everything that
transpired fell out for the benefit of the Vatican, everything.
Then, of course, when we discover that the most powerful
man in Ireland, the Jesuit Provincial Francis M. Browne, was on the
Titanic taking pictures of all those who would be going down. And then,
right before it departs Queenstown, Ireland, to set out for the North
Sea, “the lucky priest departed off the ship” in the words of Martin
Sheen, who narrated Secrets Of The Titanic.
It was more than luck; it was planned that way. Martin
Sheen has been to the Jesuit Novitiate at St. Jacques, in Warnersville,
Pennsylvania. Martin Sheen is a bosom buddy of the Jesuits.
The men who went down were wealthy Jews who were
resisting the establishment of a centralized bank in America,
particularly John Jacob Astor who was a personal friend of Supreme Court
Justice Louis Brandeis. And Brandeis greatly resisted the establishment
of the central bank.
Martin: Astor, Guggenheim, and Straus were three
Jewish men who went down with the Titanic. Why do you focus so much of
your attention on Astor?
Phelps: Astor was the wealthiest Jew in the world,
some say the wealthiest man in the world. But he was, most definitely,
the wealthiest Jew. He did not have more money than the Pope. But he was
the wealthiest man in the world and he was using his wealth NOT in
accord with the Jesuit Order.
Now, later, his son, John Jacob Astor IV, became part of
the money trust, which can be found on the Internet; and so the Jesuits
had access, now, to the Astor fortune. They control it now. But, at that
time, they got rid of Astor because they wanted his fortune, and they
wanted to end his resistance to the establishment of a national bank.
And they do this pursuant to The Secret Instructions, that they will
take the fortunes of widows and other people who resist them.
And that is what they did in Eugene Sue’s The Wandering
Jew. That story revolves around a French Protestant family, the
Renneponts, and the Jesuits killing-off every member of the Rennepont
family, so that they can have the fortune when it would be opened up at
a certain day, at a certain time in Paris. And the man who held the
fortune in trust was a Jew. So, that’s why they got rid of Astor.
Martin: What was that quote from the movie JFK
about the Titanic?
Phelps: I believe Oliver Stone was overseen by the
Jesuits, who control Hollywood. And, therefore, a lot of the lines were
authored by Jesuits.
One of the lines authored by the Jesuits was when
Garrison was sitting at the table and he said: “People, we’ve got to
start thinking differently. We’ve got to start thinking like the CIA.
White is black, and black is white.”
That is DIRECTLY from Ignatius Loyola’s Spiritual
Exercises. [Ignatius Loyola was the founder of the Jesuit Order in
1540.] When he tells the people that they believe the hierarchical
Catholic Church and believe white is black and black is white, if the
hierarchy says so. That’s right out of the Spiritual Exercises.
Well then, when one of the associates, Bill, of
Garrison’s staff, is approached by an FBI agent, and the FBI agent is
trying to win him over to their side, that FBI agent says: “There’s
going to be millions of people who are going to die. Besides, you’ve got
to get away from Garrison. He’s going down with the Titanic.”
That is a clue, right there, that the same men who were
behind the Kennedy assassination, attempting to frustrate Garrison’s
investigation, were the same men who sunk the Titanic.
Martin: I’m looking at the front-page headline
from a little-known rag-sheet, and the current headline that I’m reading
says: “Khazarian Zionists Are The Anti-Christ.” Now, what can you
explain to our readers about who might be behind such a headline, and
what is the AGENDA of such a headline?
[Editor’s note: Some of you readers who may be familiar
with the publication should know that Rick is referring to the June 13,
2001 issue of the CONTACT newspaper.]
Phelps: We know that the Jesuits, in their
agendas, hate the Jews.
And you add: “Eric, you say that the Jesuits set up
The Jesuits control the Masonic Jewish Zionists who
control Zionist Israel. They HATE the Jewish race. And when I speak of
Jews, I’m not speaking of Judaism. I’m not speaking of their evil
religion, that openly and notoriously rejects Jesus as the Messiah; even
Josephus realized Jesus was the Messiah.
I’m talking about the RACE. And when I’m speaking of the
Jewish race, I’m speaking of the descendants of Jacob, through his 12
sons, and their physical descendants. That’s what I mean when I speak of
Many, many Orthodoxes today believe there is no such
thing as the Jewish race. They are in error about that, because in
Romans IX, X, & XI, it speaks specifically about the Jewish race, that
Christ was a Jew; that Christ spoke in John, Chapter IV, we know whom we
worship for salvation is of the Jews.
So, he identified himself as a Jew. The Apostle Paul
identified himself as a Hebrew of Hebrews, an Israelite, etc. So the
terms Jew, Israelite, and Hebrew are all synonymous terms; they are the
physical, racial descendants of Jacob. And, therefore, the Abraham
covenant and promises apply to them, and they have not been fulfilled to
this day. They are in the great diaspora—they are in the great
And so, Satan, not wanting them to inherit these
promises, has set-out to destroy the Jewish race any way he possibly
can. And his greatest tool in the destruction of the Jewish race is the
Martin: Are you saying that this headline that I
just read to you has an agenda behind it?
Martin: And what is that agenda?
Phelps: The agenda is to create world-wide
anti-Jewish fury, in every nation of the world, so as to drive all the
Jews back to Israel for their final annihilation when the Jesuits bring
in the armies of the Earth and when the antichrist, the risen Pope,
brings in the armies of the Earth in his last, mad attempt to destroy
all of the Jews, so that they cannot inherent the promises given to
Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob.
Martin: If there is an intelligence community
behind this publication, it’s easy enough to draw the conclusion, from
what you’re saying, that the Jesuits, who control the intelligence
community, would be specifically behind this agenda to foment hate and
agitation against the Jewish race.
Phelps: Absolutely. Especially the American Jews,
because there are more American Jews, here in this country, than there
are in Israel. And one of their agendas in the next 10-20 years is to
create anti-Jewish fury, and to drive the American Jews back to Israel,
killing millions of them, as well, here, because they’re planning to
bring their Roman Catholic Fascist dictator to power—just like they did
with Hitler in Germany; just like they did with Stalin in Russia; just
like they did with Franco in Spain; just like they did with Mussolini in
Italy. They have the same exact agenda here. They’re going to do it
through the Republican, “New Right” party, of which George Bush is now
Martin: At one point, you made a comment privately
concerning the Right-Wing militia movement possibly being influenced
with another agenda. Can you talk about that?
I’ll just say up-front that this is going to strike at
the heart of many people’s belief system. And some may have difficulty
with what you say.
Phelps: The Right-Wing militia groups—the posse
comitatus, etc., Ku Klux Klan, the Minutemen, they all have one thing in
common: they all hate the Jews. That puts up a flag for me. And if they
all hate the Jews, that tells me that they have been imbibed, or
indoctrinated, with hatred for the Jews. They all hate the Jews; and as
an aside, so do the Black Moslems [Muslims]. Louis Farrakhan openly
hands-out The Protocols Of The Learned Elders Of Zion and blames all our
problems, and all the Black man’s problems, on the Jews.
So, the Right-Wing posse comitatus groups are all
controlled by the Jesuits because they are all anti-Jew, and they have
NOTHING TO SAY ABOUT THE JESUIT ORDER. NOTHING!
Martin: Wouldn’t you say that most of the groups
just don’t have a clue about the Jesuit Order?
Phelps: Not their leadership. A lot of these
groups have Catholics in them. There’s not a Catholic around who doesn’t
know the power of the Jesuit Order, in their educational power, and the
power of government.
We have Drinin in Congress; we have McLaughlin who was
writing speeches for Nixon for $35,000 a year. We have Jesuits all
throughout the government. There’s not any intelligent Roman Catholic
who’s involved in these Right-Wing Movements who doesn’t know the power
of the Jesuits.
THEY DON’T WANT TO TALK ABOUT THEM. JUST LIKE THE PRESS
WON’T TALK ABOUT THEM.
So, this Timothy McVeigh thing—is that what we’re leading
Martin: Well, no, but go ahead.
Phelps: This Timothy McVeigh thing—here’s another
Irish Roman Catholic sacrificed, just like Kennedy, for the sake of
attempting to create a national backlash or agitation against the
Right-Wing Movement people, because a lot of the Right-Wing Movement
people are true patriots who want their liberty; they want to maintain
their guns; they want freedom to educate their children as they wish;
they’re decent people, but they are not aware that the leadership is
controlled by the Vatican.
So, the Jesuits in control of Clinton fomented the
Oklahoma City bombing to justify going after these Right-Wing,
conservative, many of them Bible-believing, people in this movement, for
their round-up and extermination. But it didn’t quite work.
So, they imploded the building. They got rid of Timothy
McVeigh. That whole execution could have been stayed with one phone call
from the Archbishop of New York to the Bishop of Oklahoma City, and he
wouldn’t do it.
That was the purpose of the Oklahoma City bombing, the
creation of anti-Right-Wing feeling. And the people at the top,
controlling the Right-Wing organizations, will betray their own people,
just exactly as the White Russians were betrayed during the Communist
Revolution from 1917-1922.
Their own leadership will betray them—just as Hitler
betrayed his armies to the East, cut-off supplies, would not allow them
to take Moscow, froze them in the snows of Russia; just as Napoleon
betrayed his armies in the East, abandoned 250,000 men; that’s exactly
what’s going to be done to our Right-Wing patriotic people who are the
only bulwark against tyranny in this country today.
Martin: We’re almost to the present day. But,
before we get to the present day, let’s stop for a minute, once again,
and talk about JFK’s assassination. I’m going to mention a few names,
and then let’s talk about the Jesuit influence behind that assassination
and the reasons why.
John McCone, head of the CIA; Cardinal Spellman,
Archbishop of New York; Henry Luce; Carthe DeLouche; and E. Howard Hunt.
Why are these names important? What are their relationships? And WHY
would you point the finger at someone like the Archbishop of New York,
Cardinal Spellman, of all people, to place the responsibility for the
JFK assassination directly at the Vatican? How can you justify that?
Phelps: We know we’re looking at a conspiracy, so
we ask the question, again: Who benefits? Who benefited from the death
of JFK? Well, we know, according to the works of the great Fletcher
Prouty, JFK was going to end the Vietnam War in 1965. We also know that
JFK was going to end the reign of the CIA, and all of their military,
covert operations were going to be handed-over to the Army Chiefs of
Staff. Therefore, the CIA benefited, and those who wanted the Vietnam
We now must ask the question: Who wanted the Vietnam War?
Well, we know that many factions did, but we see, openly and in our
face, Cardinal Spellman wanted the Vietnam War. Cardinal Spellman’s man
in Vietnam was Diem. Diem was a fascist Roman Catholic, persecuting the
Buddhists. And his brother was head of the Secret Police. So, Diem was
Cardinal Spellman’s man in Vietnam. Diem was assassinated because
Kennedy withdrew the CIA representative out of Saigon.
The other thing is, Cardinal Spellman, throughout the
Vietnam War, would travel over there at the war-front and he’d call the
soldiers the “soldiers of Christ”, according to Avro Manhattan, in his
great work Vietnam: Why Did We Go? So, Cardinal Spellman wanted the
Vietnam War, and if Cardinal Spellman wanted the Vietnam War, the Pope
wanted the Vietnam War, and if the Pope wanted the Vietnam War, the
Black Pope wanted the Vietnam War, the Jesuit General.
Martin: Who was?
Phelps: Jean Baptiste Janssens. He died in 1964.
From 1964 to 1983 or so, it was Pedro Arrupe.
Martin: So you’re saying that Janssens had an
Phelps: Jean Baptist Janssens had an agenda, and
that agenda was to annihilate as many Buddhists as possible, because the
Buddhists have always been the enemies of the Jesuits. When the Jesuits
took Japan in 1873, what did they do? They outlawed, they made it so
that the government of Japan would not support the Buddhist religion
anymore. Buddhism has ceased to be the state religion. So they’ve always
been the enemy of the Buddhists.
The other thing about the Vietnam War is that it created
a $220 billion dollar debt for the American people, and that debt was
incurred by the Congress, who borrowed that money from the Jesuits’
Federal Reserve Bank.
So the Jesuits made big money. They killed lots of
“heretics”. They preserved the CIA.
Because, remember: the CIA was initially founded and
set-up by one particular man, Reinhard Gehlen, who was a Nazi General,
who was Hitler’s most sinister General. And so, he incorporated all of
the Nazi intelligence apparatus into the CIA in the West. It was also
incorporated into the KGB in the East. They were called “Freedom
Fighters”; they were really working for the KGB, these SS, Nazi men. If
the Jesuit General controlled the KGB, he controls the CIA.
Kennedy was getting in the way. Kennedy also did not want
the voucher system for public schools, of which George Bush is a great
promoter. The Vatican wants the American taxpayer to pay for Catholic
schools because, remember, Roman Catholicism, left to itself, without
government support, crumbles. It has nothing to offer. There is no
freedom of speech, no freedom of press.
THE CATHOLIC PEOPLE DON’T OWN ONE SQUARE FOOT OF CHURCH
PROPERTY. THEY DON’T OWN ONE BRICK OF THEIR CHURCHES. IT’S ALL OWNED BY
They are simply to obey their hierarchy, and in America
that’s not good enough. Catholic people don’t want that in America.
Catholic people, for the most part, enjoy freedom of press, and freedom
of speech, and freedom to make a profit; all of those things the Vatican
does not want. A case in point is all of South America and Central
Martin: Well, why do you think—other than the fact
that there have been 100-200 people killed who knew anything about the
JFK assassination—why do you think it’s never come out?
Phelps: Because the American branch of the Knights
of Malta, of which McCone was a member, Henry Luce was a member, William
F. Buckley was a member, Lee Iacocca was a member, Cartha DeLoach of the
FBI was a member, etc. They control the press! And they controlled CBS,
at that time, with a man named Frank Shakespeare, who was a Knight of
Malta. The Knights control ABC, CBS, and NBC, and Time/Life; that’s why
Time/Life attempted to destroy the Zapruder film.
I might also add, throughout the publication of "The
Black Pope" interview we did back in May 2000, and my first two
manuscripts since that time, there has not been one Roman Catholic who
has emailed me, or attempted to contact me in any way, denying that
Cardinal Spellman did this; not one. But we have several clandestine
Jesuits who are in complete agreement, and who admit that this is
exactly what was done.
Martin: Let me ask you about Opus Dei. We’ve been
accused of hiding Opus Dei in the background as being the real power
behind the Vatican, and therefore, the power over the Jesuits. Have we
conspired to withhold the mention of Opus Dei in our discussions?
Phelps: No. Opus Dei is a subordinate organization
to the Pope, who is in control of the Knights of Malta, and therefore
there are Knights of Malta in Opus Dei.
The Jesuits control Opus Dei through the hierarchy of the
Pope and through the Knights of Malta. Opus Dei is composed of prominent
Roman Catholic businessmen and politicians who have given themselves
over to “God’s work”—that’s what Opus Dei means—for making the Pope the
Universal Monarch of the world, ruling the world from Solomon’s rebuilt
temple in Jerusalem.
An example of this is the former head of the FBI, Louis
Freeh, was a member of Opus Dei.
And so, we now understand the Waco incident, where those
White Protestants were killed; it was the work of the Opus Dei. And we
also have to remember that the sharpshooter, one of them there, was a
Japanese Roman Catholic, Lon Horiuchi.
But Opus Dei is determined to create a World Government
under the Pope. Opus Dei was created in the 20th Century, whereas the
Knights of Malta were created in the 11th Century, and the Jesuits were
created in the 16th Century, in 1540, with Ignatius Loyola.
So, the super-secret society of the Jesuit Order, in
control of the Knights of Malta, were in existence nearly 500 years
before Opus Dei. Opus Dei, like the Knights of Columbus, is a
subordinate organization to the Jesuit Order.
Martin: Ok, now that we have some of these things
put temporarily to rest—until the book comes out!—let’s talk about the
There are a few things happening that everyone needs to
be aware of and concerned about. I’ll just mention a few countries, and
then we can begin: Israel, Cuba, China, North Africa, and Japan. What’s
happening with our relationship with these countries? How are we going
to be sucked-in to a conflict? And what are the ramifications going to
be? Lines in the sand are being drawn, alliances are being created
between powerful nations, and why should we be concerned about that?
That’s a big question.
Phelps: That’s a big question. I’ll try to deal
with a piece at a time, if I may.
I’m going to start with the 14th Amendment American
Empire that was established in 1868 after the Jesuit Order destroyed the
Federal Republic or the Confederate Republic of sovereign nation states
that Washington established in 1789.
The Jesuits have used the 14th Amendment American Empire
to restore the temporal power of the Pope over all nations around the
world for the last 100 years. And that’s why they have garrisoned
American troops throughout the world. That’s why they have laid upon us
an iniquitous and sinful federal income tax, with which they finance
these crusades around the world.
So, their American Empire has served them well in the
restoration of the temporal power of the Pope around the world,
especially over Orthodox Russia, Buddhist China, Buddhist Japan, South
and Central America through the CIA; this is the purpose for the British
and America Empires. They used the British Empire in the 19th Century to
do this, and they used the American Empire in the 20th Century to do
this. So they take the most powerful Protestant empires, and the
wealthiest, harness their governments, and use such for their own
Alright, now that America has been used for its purpose,
it is time to destroy it. And we must remember that America is the haven
for the Jews of the world, which the Jesuits have accursed; it is the
haven for Bible-believing Protestants, called “heretics”, who the
Jesuits have accursed; and it is the haven for peoples of many, many
different races who simply want to have some liberty in life, which are
called “liberals”, which the Jesuits have accursed.
The United States is a refugee nation, made up of many,
many nationalities now. We are no longer a White, Anglo-Saxon,
Protestant nation, as we were. We are composed of a host of different
nationalities, with a host of religious beliefs, and thus this nation
has been fragmented and agitated and is a disconcerted mess, with no
real national purpose anymore.
The Jesuits have fired-up the Negro agitation of the
Civil Rights Movement. They continue to fire that up with Hollywood,
with such movies as Roots, etc.
They don’t tell the whole story of Malcolm X. He was an
agitator to begin with. When he came back from Mecca, he changed his
story and denounced the Nation of Islam, along with the Ku Klux Klan,
stating that “they both had the same paymasters”. And he was absolutely
right. They have agitated and broken apart this country, so we have no
more national purpose.
The next thing that they’ve done, they’ve disarmed us.
They’ve closed-down over 100 military bases. We have no domestic
defense. The foreigners, the Mexicans come across the borders by the
thousands, and the major corporations hire them, and they do their work
for them, which is all illegal. It should be punished by law. But we
have no punishment by law in this country anymore.
So we have the reign of crime. We have all of these
illegal immigrants. We have the destruction of the White race. When this
nation ceases to be White, it will cease to be great, because there is
not a nation in the world that’s a nation of color that can compete on
the international scale of business and trade and commerce; they can’t
A nation that was once White, but is now a nation of
color, is Cuba. Cuba used to be a prosperous, beautiful place, but now,
with all the amalgamation and inter-racial marriage, it’s 95% Black;
it’s under a Roman Catholic, Jesuit-trained Dictator named Fidel Castro;
and it is a miserable place to live. And that is EXACTLY what this
country is going to be like if it continues on the track it is now on.
The Jesuits have determined to destroy this American
Empire that they have used for the last 100 years. So what they are
doing now is, they are going to break apart the Empire.
And how are they doing this? Well, one of the things
they’ve done is they’ve created this issue where an American submarine
hit this Japanese fishing boat, killing all the Japanese on the boat, I
believe, and the skipper was court-martialed. But nonetheless, it was a
deliberate act of murder, because with that kind of technology on a
submarine, you just don’t hit a boat. And you just don’t have some
civilian driving the submarine either. That’s ridiculous. So they are
creating agitations with nations like Japan, with this incident.
They’re creating deliberate agitation with nations like
China, with the bombing of the Chinese Embassy in Belgrade. They’re
creating agitations with China, Japan, which will ultimately result in
Japan and China uniting. With the military power of China, with the
economic power of Japan—when already Hong Kong has been given to China,
which now, because of that financial might, China is able to take
control of the Panama Canal; they control the canal locks through
Hutchen Wimpoa, a Chinese corporation. They are now building the largest
shipping dock in the world in the Bahamas, owned by the Red Chinese. The
Red Chinese now have the Long Beach Naval Station, which is now Cosco.
So they are in a position now to be able to establish a
beach-head when they invade.
The thing is: Does China have the fleet to do it? No,
China doesn’t have the fleet right now to do it, but Russia does. Russia
has the largest merchant marine fleet in the world. And we are very much
deceived into thinking that China and Russia are enemies. They are not
enemies; they work together. They are controlled by the same Jesuit
Order. The Jesuits run Peking; they also run Moscow. They run the
dictator of China and they run the dictator of Russia. It doesn’t matter
who he is. It doesn’t matter what their names are. The Jesuits control
them, and if they resist them, they’re out! Just like in the United
So, they’re breaking apart the American Empire. They’re
creating a huge coalition of Oriental nations for our invasion.
Now, let’s talk about Africa. There are 700,000, as I
understand it, Chinese troops in Somalia. Chuck Colson, one of the
conspirators in the Kennedy assassination and the Watergate cover-up, is
now the false Bible-believer, the false Protestant. He’s working for the
Jesuits because the head of his prison fellowship is a Roman Catholic.
Colson now is being used to try to get an American
military force into the Sudan to save these Black Christians, who in
fact are Black Roman Catholics. If that is accomplished, if that is
done, we are now going to have a large military force in the Sudan, and
there’s a large military force in Somalia. What do you think it would
take for those two military forces to clash?
And if those military forces clash, we will have an
escalation in Africa, which I believe is what the Jesuits want. Because,
if that happens, there can be a surgical strike into Jerusalem for the
blowing-up of the Dome of the Rock. The Moslems, the Muftis, have known
that was the intent of the Zionists for years, the blowing of the Dome
of the Rock, so that Solomon’s Temple can be rebuilt. And you can find
this information in Pierre van Paassen’s great work, written in 1939,
called Days Of Our Years. So, with this coalition with the 14th
Amendment American forces against the Chinese forces in Africa, this
Now, what would happen as a result of the destruction of
the Dome of the Rock? Well, the Moslems regard the Dome of the Rock as
the third most important holy place in their religion. They would call
for a Jihad against “The Great Satan”, the United States. And with a
Jihad, a Holy War, against the United States, they would then go across
Africa to West Africa. There will probably be a coalition of ships ready
at that time, to be ferried across the Atlantic Ocean into Cuba. And
Cuba will be the landing base, the staging base for the invasion of the
Protestant American South, the last real Protestant bastion of liberty
in the world.
Remember: according to the Koran, it is no murder to kill
a Christian; in fact, it is a virtuous act.
So, here we’d have all of these Moslem troopers, millions
of Moslem troopers will be landing in Miami, landing in New Orleans,
landing in the South of the United States, coupled with a Cuban military
force, coupled with, probably, also a Chinese military force coming from
the West Coast, and coming up through the Panama Canal to unite with
them in the attack of the American South. With the blood bath that will
ensue, this whole coalition of nations: China, Russia, Cuba, the Arabs,
they will carry out the destruction and annihilation of this North
American population, WHICH INCLUDES CANADA; it definitely includes
It is for this reason, because the government is
controlled by the Jesuits, the government of the United States is
seeking our total disarmament and the abolition of all gun ownership.
This is why the Jesuit Conference, for years, has been
anti-gun-ownership, meaning handguns, rifles, and shotguns.
So, to have the American people completely disarmed, our
military cut way down, we have no Navy any more, really, to speak of; we
have no Army—it’s a totally demoralized Army, with this forced
integration; and we have Black supremacy in the Army.
I was there, in Germany, for 3 years. I watched it with
my own eyes. So, we have a demoralized American Army that doesn’t know
what to fight.
Martin: Let me just jump-in here to say that Bush
is beefing-up the military, reversing what was done previously by
Clinton. How can you say we have a weak Army when we’re about to spend
billions beefing up our defenses? Is this just a show?
Phelps: That’s just a show. Because the Jesuits
who controlled Clinton are the same Jesuits who control Bush. And
remember, we were already scaling-down with Carter and Reagan and Ford.
And so, this whole idea of re-armament, it might be for
some super-system of preventing missiles from coming in, an
anti-ballistic missile system, but that’s ridiculous, because we know
there is no such thing as universal nuclear war. We have no evidence
that incoming nukes can detonate a specific target.
We don’t know EXACTLY what transpired at Hiroshima and
Nagasaki, but they have contorted that into the hoax of thermo-nuclear
war, which I do not believe can happen. Bruce Cathie doesn’t believe it
can happen; William Cooper doesn’t believe it can happen; and other
physicists don’t believe it can happen. Other physicists don’t believe
it’s possible, which now limits us to a standing army of men who know
how to fight, which we do not have. We don’t have it anymore.
So, with all of these hordes of invaders coming in, and a
disarmed population, it would be a piece of cake. Remember that Spain
was invaded by 4 million Moslem troopers. They landed in the Canary
Islands, and from the Canary Islands they then invaded Spain, and they
were led by a Roman Catholic Archbishop who was backing Franco! This is
in the 1930s.
If they did it in the ’30s, won’t they do it now? And if
they used Moslems to kill Orthodox Serbians just recently, in the 1990s,
wouldn’t they use Moslems to kill Protestant Americans? If they used
Moslems to kill Roman Catholic Spanish, wouldn’t they do the same thing
here? Sure they would. So that’s what is happening in the United States.
Martin: What just happened in Europe with Bush
going over there and theoretically being given a hard time by the
European community? What do you see happening in Europe right now?
Phelps: Well, not believing the press is our first
maxim of reading.
Remember, a unified Europe is a Vatican brainchild. That
all originated with the Jesuits in the Vatican for the reuniting of the
Holy Roman Empire, which our friend Leo Lehmann said is exactly what the
Jesuits wanted in 1942—a reunited Holy Roman Empire with a Catholic
Germany at it’s core.
Martin: And you base all of your conclusions just
on this one person?
Phelps: No, no, no, no—this is a certain topic,
and he adds to the color we’re given.
Martin: I know that, but I asked the question that
way because not all of our readers will be aware of the extent of the
bibliography supporting the contentions of your research in VATICAN
Phelps: Ok. The Jesuits want a unified Europe. The
Bible-believers of England are greatly resisting it, but the
Jesuit-controlled Tony Blair will, ultimately, bring England into that
Union. And Bush is helping to co-ordinate that, because the Federal
Reserve Bank, the largest bank in the world, is one of the greatest
contributors, or players, in international trading.
Martin: Are you saying that Alan Greenspan is a
pawn of the Jesuit Order?
Phelps: Absolutely. Alan Greenspan is a Masonic
Jewish Zionist and a pawn of the Jesuit Order. And the Jesuits are very
careful to have visible Jews at the head of the Federal Reserve System
so they can blame all the evils of the Federal Reserve Bank on the Jews.
We’re never told, for example, that the head, right now,
of the most powerful Federal Reserve Bank—because there are 12 of
them—in New York is a man named McDonough. He’s an Irish Roman Catholic.
He’s a member of the Council on Foreign Relations. He’s a friend, a
bosom-buddy of O’Hare, who is the President and Jesuit of the 4th Vow of
Why are we not told that about the Federal Reserve Bank?
It’s always Jews, Jews, Jews. Jews are just pawns. They’ve always been
the bankers for the Pope. The Masonic Jewish bankers are the bankers for
the Pope. And before the Rothschild's, it was the Fuggers.
Martin: Who are the College of Cardinals who
choose the Pope?
Phelps: The College of Cardinals is REALLY the
Roman Senate. The Pope is really the Caesar. And so this military Caesar
is elected by Roman Senators, as to who will be their leader for World
Government under the 7th Roman Caesar, who’s yet to come. And so, the
ones who do the electing are the Cardinals.
Martin: Now, those who see the current Pope see a
very frail man. Has he served well? Is that why he’s been allowed to
stay on so long?
Phelps: He’s done very well. He’s served the
Jesuit Order perfectly. This supposed rift between him and Arrupe, and
suppressing the Jesuits with their Liberation Theology in Central
America, is all for public consumption. That Pope is completely
emasculated with regard to the power of the Jesuit Order.
The Jesuit Order has proven its power with the Napoleonic
Wars, the killing of Pope Pius VI, the imprisoning of Pius VII, the
restoration by Pius VII.
THE JESUIT ORDER IS OMNIPOTENT WHEN IT COMES TO THE
PAPACY, AND THEY ARE THE ONES IN POWER.
Just like Hitler fashioned his Third Reich around the
Papacy, the Secret Police or the SS were modeled after the Jesuits, and
the Jesuits are the Secret Police of the Vatican Empire. They keep
things in order. Without the Jesuit Order, the Vatican and the Papacy
and the hierarchy would fall apart.
Martin: Who issued the Papal Bull suppressing the
Phelps: Pope Clement XIV.
Martin: Let’s talk about that.
Phelps: Pope Clement XIV was a Franciscan. His
name was Ganganelli. He was elected Pope due to the influence of the
Bourbon monarchs—the Bourbon King of Spain, the Bourbon King of France,
and the Braganzas of Portugal. Those insisted that a Pope would be
brought to power who would suppress the Jesuit Order, because the
Jesuits were busy making billions in South America, and never gave a
dime to the Portuguese King and the Spanish King.
Martin: How were they making money in South
Phelps: They were making money in South America
with their Reductions.
Martin: What are Reductions?
Phelps: Reductions are like communes; they’re like
a Kibbutz in Israel or a commune in Russia.
Martin: And what years are we talking about.
Phelps: We’re talking between 1600-1750, roughly
150 years of these Reductions, where these Garani Indians were putting
hides and tallow and clocks and the Paraguay herb and many, many
commodities into international shipping and trade—which the Jesuits
shipped all around the world with their “Black Ships”, and had HUGE
commercial profits with which they started banks in Europe and then
funded wars. And one of the projects that they funded were the
Martin: This Pope, Ganganelli, suppressed the
Jesuits with a Papal Bull?
Phelps: That’s right. Dominus Ac Redemptor. That
was the Bull. That is its formal name.
Martin: What is a Bull?
Phelps: A Bull is a legal document that the Pope
speaks within his most powerful method of speaking. It’s sealed with
“the seal of the fishman”. A “brief” does not have that seal. A brief is
a less powerful document; it can be overruled with a Bull.
Martin: So, this Pope, in 1773, issued the Bull
eliminating the Jesuit Order forever?
Phelps: Forever! After a 4-year investigation of
all their intrigues, of all their power, of all their wealth, of all
their buildings, everything, after a 4-year investigation they were
abolished by Clement XIV. And, remember, Clement XIII was about to do
the same thing when, the night before, he was poisoned.
So, Clement XIV was brought to power then and, after a
4-year investigation, he suppresses them. And when he did so, he said:
“This suppression will be my death.”
Martin: And it was.
Phelps: And it was—14 months later, he died. He
was poisoned by the Jesuits with a poison called Aquetta.
It’s a slow poison that caused his intestines to have
terrible, terrible pain. And when he was embalmed, the intestines
exploded and they could not have an open-casket for viewing this Pope.
The flesh fell off of his fingers; his fingernails turned black; his
skin turned black; all his hair fell out; so they decided they could not
have an open display of the Pope in his garb. So they had a closed
Martin: So, this Papal Bull, which was a PERMANENT
dismantling of the Jesuit Order, was later overruled?
Martin: Now, how can a permanent disbanding of the Order
be overruled at all?
Phelps: The Jesuits came out and said this was not a
Bull. Even though, according to Thompson in his Footprints Of The
Jesuits, and according the Cusack’s The Black Pope, even though they
said it was a Bull, and Thompson said it was in the Library of the Bulls
in Rome, even though it’s a Bull, the Jesuits came out and said it was a
brief. And, therefore, Pope Pius VII, upon their restoration, he
instituted a Bull restoring the Jesuits, which “overruled the brief”.
That’s what they teach.
BUT THE FACT IS, THEIR SUPPRESSION WAS A BULL, AND THEIR
[contrived] RESTORATION WAS A BULL.
Martin: Ok, we’re jumping all over the place here, but
we’re just going to go with the flow. How did the Jesuits, in England,
issue their instructions to the Queen? Where is their seat of power in
Phelps: I believe their seat of power in England is
Stonyhurst University. An English Lord, Thomas Well, gives Stoneyhurst
to the Jesuits in, I believe, 1795—about the time of the French
Revolution and just before the Napoleonic Wars.
Stonyhurst became their seat, their fortress from which
they would control England. And they were brought into England and
helped at that by King George III. King George was the bosom-buddy of
the Jesuits. And the English monarchs have been their bosom-buddy ever
since. King George reigned for quite a few years; I believe he reigned
for nearly 40 years. And Victoria enjoyed the very same thing; she ruled
So, through the rule of George and Victoria, they
completely controlled England through Stonyhurst. Today they run England
through the Royal Institute for International Affairs. And the Cardinal,
who they rule through, is the Archbishop of Westminster.
So, they have the Archbishop of Westminster in England,
and they have the Archbishop of New York in the United States. They rule
England through Stonyhurst. They rule the United States through
Georgetown and Fordham. They rule England through the Royal Institute
for International Affairs. They rule the United States through the
Council on Foreign Relations.
It’s an identical system in both countries because it is
an Empire. It is a Vatican Empire. That’s how they rule.
In Russia, they rule Moscow through the Patriarch of the
Armenian Church. So, the Patriarch is like the Archbishop in London and
New York. And it’s the Patriarch, there in Moscow, who oversees the KGB
and the inquisition there, called the gulag. Agagianian was the
Patriarch who was appointed a Cardinal by Pope Pius XII, the very same
year, 1946, that Cardinal Spellman was made Cardinal for the American
Martin: How does the Mafia figure into all of this?
Phelps: The Mafia is run by Italian Roman Catholics,
Sicilians primarily. And the Mafia takes care of all organized crime.
They took care of the booze, before it was legalized. They took care of
prostitution, the drug running, gun running, all the crime is organized
by the Vatican, through the Mafia families—the five Mafia families of
It’s interesting that the Mafia Commission out of New
York is in the same location, and not far from, the Archbishop of New
York. So the Archbishop is very close to his mob bosses.
Spellman used his mob bosses in the invasion of Sicily,
using Lucky Luciano, called Operation Underworld. Here’s Spellman
working with Lucky Luciano for a “successful Naval invasion” of Sicily,
for which reason he is influential and causes the release of Lucky
Luciano in 1946 to go back to Italy. So we have the relationship of
Cardinal Spellman and the mob. And if Cardinal Spellman had that power,
every Cardinal afterward has the same power. They don’t lose any power.
Now, one of the most obvious connections between the
Archbishop of New York and the mob is Frank Sinatra. Frank Sinatra was a
good bosom friend with Gambino. Gambino was murdered with a vaccination,
with a flu shot. They wanted him out of the way, so they murdered him
with a flu shot. Frank Sinatra was also a Knight of Malta, who is
subject, then, to the Archbishop of New York. So, you have the
Archbishop controlling the Knights of Malta. Frank Sinatra is one of
them, and Frank Sinatra is a good friend of a mafia don.
Martin: Let’s talk about Princess Diana. Do you think the
Jesuits were behind her take-out?
Phelps: Absolutely, because the Jesuits control the
British Secret Service.
Martin: Let’s talk about Princess Diana. Why was she a
threat to the Jesuits?
Phelps: She was a threat in that if she had married a
Moslem, Dodi Fayed, that would have overturned the Throne of England,
because she still had rights through her children. Because her sons
would one day occupy the British throne, and if she is alive with a
Moslem Prince as a husband, we have a problem in England. Because
everybody knows that the Queen Mother, really, has a lot of control over
the King. And there would have been an Islamic, Arab influence on the
Queen, who would influence her son, who would be King, who is now
Martin: So you think that the powers that be, within the
Jesuit Order, knew that she was pregnant with Dodi’s child?
Phelps: I believe so; and that’s why they got rid of
her—absolutely. And they sent a message to all the other British
nobility by saying: “If you do this, we’re going to do the same thing to
you.” Furthermore, they buried her in the cemetery, on the Windsor
property, where only dogs are buried. She’s buried with dogs.
Martin: What kind of symbolism is that?
Phelps: Because she was a “Moslem dog” in their eyes.
Martin: In the recent June, 2001 issue of The SPECTRUM,
we shared an article from Sherman Skolnick in which he not only mentions
the Jesuits, but he talks about the incredible financial influence, and
power, and control in California and elsewhere by the Japanese Mafia,
called the Yakuza. Is there any relationship between the Yakuza and the
Phelps: Absolutely. The Jesuits control the Yakuza. To
understand this, we have to go back in the history of Japan. Japan had,
wonderfully and righteously, expelled the Jesuits from their Empire
around 1619, give or take a few years. The Jesuits were forbidden to
ever enter Japan!
The Japanese, then, kicked-out the Portuguese; they
kicked-out the Spanish. The only ones who could ever trade with Japan
were the Dutch, the Protestant Dutch. Well, when the Jesuits were
beginning to get control of our country, they got control of Polk. And
Polk was responsible for the sending of Commodore Perry to Japan.
Martin: What year?
Phelps: 1853-1854. He then opens up Japan to
international trade. So now “foreigners” can enter into Japan.
Foreigners then began an agitation and a revolution in Japan. The
reigning Emperor of Japan, who was a young man about 35, wanted to get
rid of the Jesuits and these foreign powers, so he was assassinated.
According to Ryu Ohta, my friend in Japan, the Japanese
had been taught that he was killed by Sassoon House—the Jews. But the
Emperor was really killed by the Jesuits, because the son of this
Emperor later went on to rule Japan from 1873 to 1912, and this Emperor
was the grandfather to Hirohito.
This Emperor was a young boy at the time he came to
power. He ruled for all those years. The Jesuits during that time dis-established
the Buddhists as a state religion, and made tremendous inroads in power
in Japan, controlling the Dynasty, because they were going to use Japan
to foment a war with the United States for the purpose of eliminating as
much Buddhism as they could from the Far East, and weakening the
American Protestants, and many other purposes, such as killing off
Protestant missionaries in the Far East—whereas the Japanese Army never
persecuted the Catholic missionaries. And this is according to the
Jesuits’ own magazine America, written and published in 1943 or 1944.
This is where the Jesuits got their power over the
Emperor, and thus the Yakuza. So now, the Jesuits have that power, they
maintain that power. They maintained power over Hirohito. And thus, they
have power over the Yakuza today, in Japan and California.
Martin: There was a book written many years ago called
Tai Pan. Now, would a Tai Pan, symbolically, be the equivalent of the
Phelps: Sure. It’s a Secret Society. It’s a Japanese
Secret Society that really rules.
Martin: Theoretically they would rule independently.
Phelps: They rule together with the Monarch.
Martin: Which would be the real Black Pope?
Phelps: The Black Pope. Remember, the Black Pope is in
control of the Monarch of Japan.
Martin: We need to explain to our readers that the Jesuit
Order is NOT a religious order, it is a MILITARY ORDER.
Phelps: It is a military order. When they dawn religious
garb to get into a country to talk about Christ and God and so forth,
they really want to capture the power and wealth of every country, to
submit every country to the temporal, Earthly, political power of the
Martin: I don’t want to get too far off-subject here, but
would you say “As with the Jews, so with the Yakuza”?
Phelps: Correct. As with the Masonic Jewish Zionists, so
with the Masonic Yakuza. They’re all Masonic. Masonry unites all
religions into one.
Martin: And behind the scenes the Jesuits are pulling the
Phelps: Pulling the strings because they wrote all of the
Martin: For our Masonic scholars out there, on what do
you base that?
Phelps: We know that, according to several citations I
reference in the book VATICAN ASSASSINS, the Jesuits wrote the first 25
degrees of the Scottish Rite Freemasonry, from the College of Clermont,
which was changed to the College of Louis LeGrand, in Paris, France.
Martin: What year?
Phelps: 1754. That is a fact. The Jesuits wrote those
Martin: Do you have any names behind that?
Phelps: Oh, I believe Chevalier Ramsey was, Chevalier de
Bonneville was one. Remember the Bonneville automobile, and Pontiac?
Those were Jesuits. And we have Adam Weishaupt, who was a Jesuit, who
was a Mason. And it was the Rothschild Luciferians. So we have many
dovetails of the Jesuits being Freemasons.
And we know, according to our hero Alberto Rivera, that
Pedro Arrupe was a Mason, and Pedro Arrupe was a Jesuit General. Pedro
Arrupe was a Mason AND in the Communist Party of Spain when he was a
So, we also know that the Jesuits were involved in the
writing of the last 8 degrees of Scottish Rite Freemasonry, with
Fredrick the Great in Prussia, while Fredrick protected the Jesuits and
gave them the ability to live in his country, while they were being
suppressed by the Pope.
Martin: Let’s circle back around to the Yakuza. According
to Skolnick, the Yakuza own many, many businesses in this country, many,
many banks are owned and controlled in California and elsewhere by the
Yakuza. Now, are you saying that’s just a front?
Phelps: They’re just a front, like any other Mafia, like
the Italian Mafia, which is the foremost Mafia in organized crime.
Martin: Which J. Edgar Hoover said “Didn’t exist.”!
Phelps: Which he said didn’t exist. It’s all baloney. It
is just a front. They hold the property, they hold the money for the
Martin: So the Yakuza would be the 3rd trusted party that
we talked about?
Phelps: That’s right, they’re the 3rd trusted party. And
I tend to also believe that there is some kind of hand involved in the
murder of Bruce Lee with this. Bruce Lee was not going along with the
Martin: And he was giving away secrets.
Phelps: He was giving away martial arts secrets, and so
on, and he was not going along with the Vatican. Remember, he had a rift
with Hollywood, and most of his films were made in Hong Kong.
Martin: And his son was also killed not long ago.
Phelps: His son was then killed on a movie-making set
also. So his son knew something. And evidently, just like Jackie
Kennedy, Linda Lee doesn’t open her mouth. So there are two murders here
that the Secret Societies are involved in.
Martin: You don’t talk too much about Bobby Kennedy. Has
your research uncovered any names behind Bobby Kennedy’s assassination?
Phelps: Well, we know that Officer Thane Eugene Cesar
really pulled the trigger, shot him in the back of the head with a
twenty-two. And Officer Cesar was an employee for Lockheed Corporation.
The Jesuits, according to Avro Manhattan, control Lockheed.
So, just as Lee Iacocca dispatches his security chief to
drive the bullet-ridden limousine of Kennedy from Washington to
Cincinnati to get repaired, even so, some Knight of Malta in charge of
Lockheed Corporation, I don’t know who it was, dispatches Officer Cesar
to be a guard of Robert F. Kennedy—who then, in turn, shoots and kills
him. And Sirhan was a scapegoat, just like Oswald was a scapegoat.
Martin: What do you have to say about Earl Warren?
Phelps: Earl Warren was in the hands of the
Jesuits when he was the governor of California. Earl Warren was one of
the sinister individuals behind that evil and terrible Japanese
concentration camp system. That was his brainchild. He was behind the
anti-Jap agitation in World War II.
The Japanese are decent, law-abiding, peaceful people,
for the most part. They had all their farms taken from them. They were
in control of all of the produce, and they had it all stolen from them
by Roman Catholic, Knight of Malta-controlled corporations—just as was
done to the American Indian. They went into their burial grounds and
stole all their gold, and used their missions to send it back to Rome.
So, Earl Warren was a part of this. He was a good boy, so
they named him and put him on the Supreme Court. He was the Chief
He was a 33rd-degree Freemason involved in the Kennedy
assassination, forced amalgamation, forced race-mixing with the Supreme
Court decision in 1966, forced integration with the Brown vs. The Board
Of Education in 1954.
Martin: I’m going to ask you now a very important
question, one that will be on the minds of many people: Why should our
readers not feel that you are merely substituting the word JESUITS for
JEWS in terms of fomenting hatred and animosity toward Jesuit people?
Why is that not so?
Phelps: Well, first of all, there’s a tremendous
difference between the Jesuit Order and the Jewish race.
We don’t know exactly who the Jewish race is. I sure
don’t know. I think only God knows who it is. But it’s a civilization of
people who are engaged in commerce and trade, and they have cultures,
they have communities.
Jesuits are an army. They’re soldiers. They’re under
oath. When you become professed of the 4th Degree, they give you The
According to another gentleman, he says there’s a degree
beyond the 4th Degree, where it’s absolute Luciferianism. This is
according to Jim Arrabito, who died mysteriously in a plane crash in
Alaska on September 2, 1990. Jim Arrabito was one of the chief guys in
the Seventh Day Adventists, and he was a master of Jesuit history. You
can get his videos, Secrets Of The Jesuits, from L.L.M. Productions.
But anyway, the difference between the Jews and the
Jesuits is strictly—one is a people, and one is an Order determined to
subvert all nations to the jurisdiction of the Pope.
And, in light of the documents that I provide with the
book version of VATICAN ASSASSINS—I have over 4,000 pages on CD-ROM,
with four distinct different histories showing the history of the
Order—that’s exactly what they were doing then, and that’s exactly what
they’re doing now.
Martin: So what’s different about what you’re
saying? Rather than just being another wild conspiracy theory, it’s your
position that you’ve really proven that this is a fact, and not fantasy?
Phelps: Other men have proven the fact. I just
reiterate what they’ve said.
If you read The Black Pope, by Cusack, she says the very
same thing. She was a nun, a converted nun to Christ in 1896.
Martin: And why is she so important?
Phelps: Because she was a nun intimately involved
with priests, and especially Jesuits, prior to her conversion to Christ.
She would know; she was on the inside.
Martin: Why is that book so important?
Phelps: Because it has been suppressed and stolen
out of every library in the world! There is only one in existence that I
know of, that’s publicly accessible, and that is in the British Museum.
It’s also accessible on the CD-ROM included with the book
VATICAN ASSASSINS, for those of your readers who would like it. But,
other than that, it’s a suppressed document. Griesinger, Thompson,
Cusack, Nicolini—those are the four major histories of the Jesuit Order,
and all four are on the CD-ROM [along with a number of other rare and
otherwise “missing” research documents].
Martin: So you’re saying that the time-lines that
you put forth, and the conclusions that you draw, are really based on
historical experts over the last two centuries? This is not just your
Phelps: Absolutely. I’m standing on the shoulders
of giants, as a little cricket. These people are brilliant and Godly.
Nicolini, an Italian Roman Catholic, converted to Christ, involved in
the Italian Revolution of 1848, had to flee for his life, was in exile
in England, and there he wrote his great History Of The Jesuits, warning
England that if the Jesuits sought to destroy England under Elizabeth,
they would surely do the same thing under Victoria.
Martin: And they have.
Phelps: And they have. We have the great Theodor
Griesinger, who was the great German who wrote The Jesuits as a history
told by the German people—823 pages of meticulous documentation of all
their doings in all the countries. And he was the one, I learned, who
said the Jesuits could very well be planning a second Thirty-Years War,
another Thirty-Years War. And he wrote that, the second edition was in
[Editor’s note: And remember that the second bloody and
diabolical “Thirty-Years War” did indeed happen, between 1914 and 1945,
as Eric mentioned earlier in this interview in conjunction with
financing it through the setting up of the Federal Reserve Bank fraud.]
So, these learned people have made quite clear and quite
evident the purpose and power of the Jesuit Order.
We haven’t had anybody in the 20th Century write an
extensive history of what they’ve accomplished from 1900-2000. I would
hope that somebody who knows these histories, who knows grammar and
spelling and is able to write nice prose (unlike myself) would be able
to do this, and write a real modern history of this. Ridpath came close
to it, but he ended his work in the mid-1850s, with his Ridpath’s
Universal History [Of The World]. We have not had a significant
historian do this modern work for us.
Martin: And why is that?
Phelps: Because these Jesuits have all these
colleges and universities bought and paid for! And these universities
won’t get grants if they start to expose the Jesuit Order.
Now, with all these “hate crime” laws, anything
truthfully said about the Jesuit Order will generate attempts to contort
it into some kind of a hate crime, which is NOT what we’re doing. We are
merely telling the truth.
Martin: What is your solution to the Jesuit
problem in America? What would you like to see, ultimately, happen in
Phelps: In this country, what I would like to see
happen is exactly what happened in England in the 16th Century, when
several Jesuits left the Order. They were intelligent, powerful Jesuits,
involved in the conspiracy to overthrow England.
They told the powers-that-be about what they were
supposed to do, and as a result, the government of England expelled the
Jesuits from their dominions, because they were regarded as traitors and
conspirators in the overthrow of legitimate government—of self-rule, of
nationalism; a country should be ruled by its own people.
The solution here would be the expulsion of the Jesuit
Order, that they would be outlawed and banned.
There would be period of grace where certain Jesuits
could come forward, tell what they know. But why would the Jesuits want
to do that when this government is controlled by the Council on Foreign
Relations, which is controlled by the Jesuits? The government is
controlled by the Jesuits through the mob and high-level Freemasonry.
Martin: Proposing the expulsion of the Jesuits,
the difference between that and racial persecution, such as with the
Jews, yours is based on treason, which is a lawful conclusion based on
your research concerning what their true aims and objectives are—namely,
the overthrow of this government.
Phelps: The usurping of this government, the
controlling of this government for their own purposes. And then using
this government, with a coalition of other governments they control, for
the annihilation of the “heretic” and “liberal” population of this
country, pursuant to the Council of Trent, that every Pope swears upon
his coronation to uphold.
Martin: Thank you so much for taking this time to
clarify these many points about the Jesuit Order. Our readers will
really appreciate this as you offer much food for both